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Monday, June 16, 2008 12:00 AM

What's wrong with Obama's FightTheSmears.com

Obama's new site tries to fight ugly rumors by getting people to e-mail the truth to their friends. The strategy could backfire.

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Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:52 PM

WHAT ABOUT THE TRUE THINGS?

I'm much more wondering about the truths than the rumors.

How did the Obamas buy that house?

Why did Michelle Obama's salary double as soon as her husband got elected?

Why is a non-profit hospital paying a quarter of a million dollar salary to a community affairs employee? How much experience did Michelle have to merit that kind of salary?

What I'd like to see is a tracking of all both Obamas history of entitlement.

And contrast it with how the average American pays for what they've gotten instead.

I'm saying this with all due respect. I am not out to smear this guy. I am just wondering how you bypass everyday experience to perk your way through life.

I'd wonder this about anyone, especially any politician. So maybe doing this about both candidates is the right thing to do.

If Hillary Clinton had bought her house with the same opaque explanations the Obamas have given you had better believe this would have been way more closely examined. Especially with the indicted friends.

By the way, I am writing in Hillary Clinton.

I don't think that there is any thing wrong with Obama.

I just don't think it is appropriate or logical to elect a two year junior senator to the Oval Office. If that's the best we can do out of 300 million, we really need to review the election process. Even George w Bush, may his brain rest in piece, had more political experience behind him. And that sure worked out well.

I am so grateful to default to Independent. I never imagined in my long life I wouldn't be a Democrat til I died, but folly is folly and I don't need to be a part of it.

Thank God for the write-in ballot.

Moot point really.

If Obama had split the logs with his bare hands, the flyover is still not going to vote for him because of his inexperience. But the housing and salary questions really are on a lot more minds outside the blogosphere.

However, it's the inexperience we all objected to on Day One that will make him lose, no matter what.

You can foist an inexperienced candidate onto the ticket, but you can't make us vote for him.

Even Jesus had more than two years of miracles behind him when he got this much puffery.

-gala1

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 04:04 PM

Careful, gala11: Your Disinformation Is Showing

gala11: "I just don't think it is appropriate or logical to elect a two year junior senator to the Oval Office... Even Jesus had more than two years of miracles behind him when he got this much puffery."

Obama has been a U.S. Senator for 3.5 years, not 2 years - but you knew that, right gala11?

In any event no worries: if elected, Obama will have had far more than a "two year junior senator". Upon entering the Oval Office Obama will have served in government for 4 years at the federal level, and 8 at the state level - 12 years in total.

Compare that with, say, George W. Bush - who upon election had 6 years of government experience at the state level and 0 years at the federal level. That's not a reassuring example though, to be sure. So who's a better example in your mind - Ronald Reagan? 8 years at the state level, 0 at the fed level. Or Bill Clinton? 12 years state at the state level, 0 at the federal level. I could go on, but hopefully I've dispelled you of your odd notion that 12 year of state and federal government service is somehow too limited to serve in the Oval Office.

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 05:23 PM

It's NOT your email password they're asking for

They're asking you to make up a password for your My.BarackObama.com account where you can enter a profile of yourself and probably do other things (like volunteer). Why on earth would you think they're asking for your email password, and why would you think you should give it to them?

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 05:49 PM

Leave it to the Bloggers

It should be left to regular people like us (who might have a conservative cousin sending us this bigoted garbage) to refute these emails and volley back on cyberspace. To have the campaign do it lends too much credence to the ideas of a handful of slack jawed racists. I post my email volleys on a blog to spread the word. :) Thank you, I quoted this article too in my ill-tempered rebuttal.

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 06:44 AM

So you think you have to be educated to BELIEVE everything said about BH Obama

I am very educated and any idiot knows Obama has an affinity for the Muslim religion. What you mean to say is, those educated AND politically correct "know" he's not Muslim.

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 09:53 AM

Obama is a Christian - Only "Idiots" Believe Otherwise

unpodivero: "any idiot knows Obama has an affinity for the Muslim religion."

Any informed non-idiot knows that Obama is a Christian.

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:44 PM

PUBLICOLA: WOW THAT SURE CHANGES A LOT IN THE WAY OF DISSONANCE

But it does show just how much we care, doesn't it.

Now you can tell me I am just another angry old white woman and do the rest of the True Believer Shuffle.

Sweetie,, angry I am not. Turned-off is the precise term. Skeeved-out is my attitude. After that really repulsively grubby power-grab all I can conclude is this.

Obama supporters have done him an incredible disservice.

They have done the Democratic Party - the most self-destructive organization on the face of the earth - even more damage.

And they are the single biggest reason McCain, who I do not support as he stands , will win this election.

And he knows it.

Which is why you are hearing about loxes like Lieberman as his VP instead of what we really need, a Bipartisan Brain-trust.

But back to Obama.

Obama came into this campaign promoting himself as the first mainstream multi-racial candidate. He could have celebrated the incredible advantage of being both black and white and nipped a lot of what's going to make him lose --for people who don't rank inexperience first-- in the bud.

According to Obama, he was not going to be about race, age or misogyny.

His judgement was so bad that it turned out that he let his followers make this pretty much ALL about race, age and misogyny to get himself the nomination.

The cost to the Democratic party and to all of us is this.

He could have become the first multi-racial vice president and acquired the experience which would have made everyone who has rejected him as inexperienced consider him in future when he got some as the President in eight years and given the Democrats a sixteen year stretch.

Instead, for whatever foolish reason, Obama decided to default to Icarus and promote himself as the first mainstream black candidate to lose an election.

If that's how he chose to cut it, don't blame everyone who feels he is now positioned in a way that has managed to offend a lot of people who aren't black, are older and are women and men who have been watching an older women get trashed. And also a lot of skeptical men and women who feel that a lifetime of entitlement and inexperience and a 3.5 year Congressional career don't really cut it.

AND SPIN WON'T FIX IT.

Why would they think otherwise, when this campaign has shown them nothing but Obama's aquiessence and bad judgement? Remember that disparaging comment about his own Granny being a typical white woman? A lot of grandparents will. And the bad judgement part is that he actually expects these same people -the last of all demographics- to forget that and vote for him. Oh, sure.

But it is an outstanding example of Obama's divisive judgement. The sort where, need I remind you, he was the one to bring this up. No typical white grandparents were even asking.

Especially when they can get to contrast that with McCain who has been in Congress longer than Obama has been an adult.

You are making the mistake all fundamentalists make. You are so busy True Believing you choose to ignore what he unimpressed are telling you.

If you want to believe that this utterly unwise choice fo a candidate is going to win an election. Stay on the blogs and prefer your affirmation.

But since I am a slave to the logic of information, I'll just put my money on what I hear when the only virtual thing around me is the unanimity of disbelief that you think we'd go for this.

I go out in the morning and everywhere in my small rural town if you bring up Obama , they reject him.

Then I read the polls and the blogs where he supposedly has the advantage.

Then I go out again and listen to everyone reject him.

Gee, who to believe.

From the way i can figure it, just as many people will be voting for McCain because they cannot relate to Obama BECAUSE HE HAS NO EXPERIENCE - as paranoid still-Democrats are going to vote for Obama to prevent another Republican from getting in.

But if that was really want the Democrats want, and of course it should be, picking a candidate that has come out of division, represents division and can promise only more division, while McCain consolidates the GOP is true folly.

Before I move out to the country I would have probably thought Obama had a chance. I thought that about Kerry too.

But the lesson Kerry taught me is it's the silent ones you have to watch out for.

As in everyone out here who just silently shakes their head and presses their lips shut when you bring up Obama. About all you will here from them before election day is a very brief snort if you ask them to vote for him.

Then they will make absolutely sure not just tha they won't, they'll drag out every last like-mind they know to the polls.

I've seen this happen all my life. The one thing the GOP excels at is getting every registered republican in their area to the polls . No matter how ancient or infirm.

So go on with your windmill tilt.

It's a Moot Point. You chose a candidate who is unelectable because he has no experience and no accomplishment in comparison to the other guy..

Nothing you can do will change that. Unless you figure that out before the election.

Tough luck.

-gala1

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