Letters to the Editor
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More heat than light....
Just sayin'
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/new_oliver_stone_9_11_film
Many 9/11 conspiracy theorists claim [Oliver] Stone is presenting an exploitative, far-fetched, and manipulative Hollywood version of the pain and suffering—including eye strain and carpal tunnel syndrome—they have undergone during their countless hours on the Internet in the tragedy's aftermath.
Despite the controversy, Stone stands by his film. "This is a story that needs to be told, in a reality that only I can bring to the big screen," Stone said. "I realize it will be hard to accept for those unable to confront the truth, but I can't hide my head in the sand like some goddamn ostrich. To sin by silence when we should protest makes cowards out of men."
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sorry @ motherwell,
He's right, I am stupid. LOL
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I don't believe the official story, but here's an example of why 9/11 Truthers get ridiculed
Bill Owen:
As for Israel I did not say Mossad did the job, simply that they were there, and were celebrating. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
I read your link. There was absolutely no substantiation of the claim that Israelis/Mossad agents were high-fiving each other. To come away from that believing that this definitely occurred, requires a leap in faith, pure and simple. By definition, faith in a particular thing is not something shared uniformally, which is why your arguments sometimes fall on deaf ears.
To be sure, there are many, many questions about the official 9/11 story, and I don't for a minute buy the official one. But to replace the original cock-and-bull story with one that requires me to believe that the Bush Administration -- fercryinoutloud -- that showcase of incompetence we all know and love -- managed to pull off the crime of the century in front of everyone, requiring the cooperation of hundreds of people all of whom agreed to attack their own country for a nebulous purpose and then keep quiet about it (unlike every other secret the administration has tried to keep quiet). Compared to that, I'd say the official story is more credible.
Fortunately, I can understand that neither story is apt to be correct.
The important thing in learning the truth is to keep an open mind and look at the research as objectively as possible. Seeing Mossad agents high-fiving each other evidenced in that fact-free "he said/she said" article on WhatReallyHappened is about the same as seeing a missile dropping from the bottom of the 757 just as it crashed. Both are products of a mind that has already reached its conclusion and is creating the pieces to support it.
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@paul
I think you are saying that this never happened, or perhaps that they were not high-fiving. They were, it's a fact, and it is a matter of record. No one denies this happened, the Israeli government denies they were Mossad, but that is all. The rest is history.
Here is a link to an ABC report circa 2001
http://tinyurl.com/2mmens
Here is another
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=20612
This event is in no ways a "conspiracy theory" if by that you mean, as most people do, crazy, stupid and wrong. It happened. Every data point in the whatreallyhappened article is verifiable and came from press reports. These men were arrested. Two of them we KNOW were Mossad, the company did close up and leave within days. Draw your own conclusions, I am sure that you will.
And please spare us the Manjooian amateur psychology. Jesus, he presented his little article like "bias" is news or something. And if you read his article, it's pretty plain, that everyone "suffers" from this and the knife cuts both ways Paul, if I am biased, then so are you. The trick is to be aware of our biases and act accordingly.
My bias on 911 was shock and disgust, and yes I was pissed at Bin Laden. The difference between you and I is that the mountain of evidence shifted my position.
I am getting tired of the "incompetance" argument. How could Bush lower taxes, he's too stoopid, how could Bush fight a war in Iraq, he's too stoopid, how could Bush fly a plane, he is too stoopid. The attack on America that day was a supra-national attack, not purely a domestic one. Bush is a bit player, an actor, a dupe, a patsy.
Do you think that I believe that Bush did it? Personally? Why do you make assumptions about what I think? Bias maybe? He has people for that. I don't think that Bush did it, I believe tha elements in your government did it, in cooperation with elements in Israel, that there was coup that day, and Bush was given the choice. This goes a long way in explaining Air Force One's 6 hour flight of the bumble bee all over the US that day. And you have probably forgotten the story, officially announced at the time, that Air Force One was at risk, as someone had the codes.
http://www.911blogger.com/node/12936
I ask again. Where were the interceptors? Could Bin Laden make NORAD stand down?
By Way of Deception, We Shall do War - Mossad motto
Now go look up the Lavon Affair. And if you don't know about it, Project Northwoods.
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Quoting Netanyahu? Lamest Defense Ever!
Owen: to support your claim that the Iraq war benefits Israel, all you can do is quote ONE Israeli -- right-winger Netanyahu at that. Since when was that discredited asshat a reliable source? Since fools like you coundn't find anything better to support your moronic claims, I guess. (BTW, in case you weren't keeping up, I should point out that Israel was building fences and settlements BEFORE the Iraq war, so you can't really say the war benefitted Israel in that area.)
Criticism of Israel, is NOT anti-Semitism. Why do you confuse the two?
Because YOUR "criticism" was just as mindless, hateful, fact-proof, dishonest and bigoted as that of any Nazi. I stand by all of my statements: you're the bigot here, not me.
One more helpful hint: if you want to be taken seriously, don't mix your name-calling with accusations of name-calling. It only makes you look like a hypocritical crybaby who flips out and throws a tantrum after his arguments get refuted (and yes, I also noticed your claim about the high-fivers was smacked down).
Another helpful hint: stop pretending your claims have not been addressed. They have, in plain English, and the text is still up on the Web for all to see; and you only look like an idiot when you deny the obvious (while pretending to have all the relevant facts covered, no less).