One minor nit pick. In some caucuses, the presidential vote is secret. For example, in the Minnesota DFL (Democratic) precinct caucuses, the number of delegates to the National Convention each Presidential candidate receives will be set by a secret ballot. Which people from the precinct caucuses move onto the district and state caucuses will not be set by a secret ballot, but that doesn't seem like a problem to me.

I believe that the Iowa Republicans did something similar.

To know that, even in their own primaries, the moonbat, tin-foil hat wearers in the Democrat party are still crying "vote-count fraud." Except this time, the Democrats are left on their own. No adult supervision to guide them. Will Dennis Kucinich ask that the recount take place in a neutral location, like perhaps one of the planets in the Alpha Centauri system?

Lemme tell you, there is no way they are accurate. People are in a hurry, pollers are frantic, young, and inexperienced and minimally trained, and it's really obvious that a lot of voters are being intentionally misleading with their answers, assuming they're willing to answer at all.

The accounts I've read of the exit polling the day of the New Hampshire primary suggest that nothing much has changed in the 27 years since I was an exit pollster.

Still, there was at least one good thing about the experience. Most of us pollsters were college students, and at the end of the very long day, we went out drinking together in a big happy, exhausted pack. Something to do with the crazy weird energy of the day and the "we're all in this together" effect meant that even though I was a super dork college freshman, I still got laid.

But my poll results were almost certainly worthless.

crumley is mistaken about how Minnesota's national delegates are selected. The secret presidential ballot at the caucuses is strictly a straw poll. Attendees elect delegates to their county convention (often that's everyone in attendance who is will to be a delegate), and the county convention elects delegates to the state convention. State delegates from a given congressional district hold a district convention to pick some national delegates, and the rest are chosen at the state convention. Delegates have to run for election. Subcaucuses large enough to elect delegates hold a secret ballot to elect their delegate, but otherwise nothing is secret. Everyone knows which individual they're voting for.

if you were to be called in to a court of law and asked to prove that she didn't steal it, you wouldn't be able to.

Duh! Of course you couldn't - since anyone who's taken Logic 101 knows you can't prove a negative.

Betcha can't prove that I don't have a five dimensional Martian ghost in my closet either!

For those "grown ups" scolding those pesky "tin foil hat wearing people" who don't seem to take the results of a black box voting machine, whose source code is private property and which has no paper record...

So basically, some of you think that it is perfectly OK to have elections tabulated by a private company, which does not allow the public to access the code used to count votes, and which as a corporation has it own sets of interests. Are American so mentally (and phisically) lazy as to not have a significant problem with having the democratic process offsourced?

Our democracy is now devolved into a stage of "nananana my guy won I don't care how nahnahnha" kindergarden level political discourse. Wow... talk about some people needing to grow up.

...when I posted this letter on Salon, hours after the NH primary results were in.

It's only a matter of time.

[Read the article: Does race explain the polling disconnect?]

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I'm just waiting for some group -- the Building 7 nuts, perhaps? -- to claim that Clinton rigged the election. If Chris Matthews can float the race thing with a straight face, election fraud is just one small brain fart away.

Y'all didn't have to take me seriously!

If some would use reading comprehension they would know that Kucinich was not accusing any of the candidates of stealing anything. It is simply about vote counting integrity and machines which are supplied by a private corporation and relied upon to accurately report the votes.

Time and again, in independent studies, an Emmy winning HBO documentary and even the New York Times Magazine recently, these machines have been proven to not be reliable. The fact is that relying on LHS to privately count votes is ridiculous on it's face, so is calling Kucinich a tin foil hatter for wanting transparency in vote counting. The best way to make sure that votes are counted is to leave the machines and private companies out of the process and have hand counted paper ballots.

What harm is there in making sure that all of the votes were counted properly? I find that those who criticize individuals wanting an accurate count sound an awful lot like the Republican staffers who shut down the vote counting in Miami Dade. THEY thought that recounting the votes was a stupid idea as well and aren't we so glad that they got their way?

You mention court-level evidence. But it's up to the 'prosecution' to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that fraud occured, not up to the Clinton campaign to refute it.

I'm no Clinton fan, but I doubt the vote was rigged. Either way, Kucinich's request will prove it in the end.

http://www.lhsassociates.com/aboutus.html

John Silvestro's private company IS the "chain of custody" for the NH election. Why is vote-counting done in secret by a private company? Diebold's good name is not enough to provide any degree of faith, and when polls are as wrong as they were in NH in a third-world country, vote fraud is assumed.

For me, it's a matter of simply not trusting any e-voting scheme, nor trusting any private company to tabulate anything more than the number of days in a week. Bush43 was appointed in 2000 and the Ohio Presidential race was severely compromised in 2004. Why wait until November to begin examining what is by now an established pattern of vote fraud?

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