if (choice == myGuy)

{

myGuyCount += 1;

print (myGuy);

}

else if choice == theirGuy)

{

myGuyCount += 1;

print (theirGuy);

}

else

{

myGuyCount += 1;

print (noGuy);

}

OK, so it won't be that blatant in real life, but it will be there. Too bad we don't really get a choice.

The unlimited power that those who actually possess computers have to manipulate those computers is the key here, that nobody sees.

Against insider powers, no “security” procedures work.

True computer "security" in elections is as hopeless as trying to "secure" a computer system against the admin himself or herself – and the government is the admin in all computerized elections:

The relevant studies show that voters do NOT catch hardly ANY of the errors or frauds on paper trails -- we're all bad proofreaders and our brains see what they want to see and "skip" to be efficient. Paper trails just create voter-verified error and fraud: bulletproof fraud.

What a mess when the "reform" creates the institutionalization of the problem in a bulletproof way: approved by the voters.

There are some instances where fast shouldn't be a priority. Would you want your heart surgeon to be famous for being "fast"? Getting the votes right is too important to let anything but accuracy be the criterion for how they're counted.

First, David Dill used his academic tenure and his position at a California university to not merely study an issues and report on his findings, but he lobbied and attempted to create policy nationally.

Second, David Dill invested most of 2002 - 2004 traveling the country advocating for paper-trails in electronic voting machines. This was his exclusive position, the position of this foundation and non-profit, and the position of most of the non-profit community nationally.

Third, it was largely these efforts that were instrumental in states, and some in Congress, to believe that a paper-trail was a satisfactory solution to the challenges that we face in the election industry.

Fourth, At some point after the 2004 election, Dill altered his position and is now attacking those same states that acquiesced to his lobbying efforts only a few short years ago.

This nation needs a responsible and engineering fact based approach to this challenge. Unfortunately, while I only mention Dill above, it has largely been comprised of narcissists who promulgate self-promotion over the good of the nation.

Finally, our politicians clearly do NOT possess the political will to seriously address this issue. It has been relegated to back-door, or lessor, status, with virtually no financial interests vying for new legislation.

With the combination of non-profit organizations, academics and activists all climbing over each other to gain media attention and continued funding, it is inconceivable that any true serious efforts will put forth to address the serious challenges.

Most Americans have been conditioned to expect instant gratification, the bait that the corporate globalists have used on the hook of their crooked programmable electronic voting machines. I am reminded of the Cyril Kornbluth story "The Marching Morons", in which the cerebrally-challenged majority are delighted to drive gutless cars with hot paint jobs and loud exhaust pipes, where show is everything and genuine performance is not even imagined.

So now we have these slick, scheister-sold electronic voting machines, the window-dressing of democracy masking the totalitarian state behind the facade. Now every vote is potentially contestable and the winner is decided by who controls the machines, the courts, or who has the resources or will for the longest legal battle.

I've heard that in Canada all votes are registered on paper card ballots and counted by hand. With one poll worker for every 500 voters, the verified results are available within 24 hours, with virtually no disputes as to the outcome.

Which voting method gives results that are fast AND reliable?

Folks,

no matter what new rules, laws and amendments will be debated and approved. The sad fact here is: **Loophole Army & Forgerers** will tamper, as history has been telling us for an endless number of times

People close participation should be the avenue to evaluate : realistic terms of people participation analyzed, tested and finally implemented

Sadly and as the story goes

**"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."**

(Josef Stalin) a/k/a Josef Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili

also known for his ongoing campaigns of political repression, estimated to have cost the lives of up to 20 million people -

To summarize, People in history had it very poorly when it comes to the mythical ** VOTE ** as a sort of pill that fix it all.

A great concept (the vote) is no longer a friendly hand, a reliable reference or **The Trust, Confidence and Comfort** we desperately need from our Leadership in charge

Bag the electronic machines and use a paper ballot and a pencil to mark the choices. It works wonderfully in civilized places that actually count the votes. It is as fast and the trail is clear. The only trouble is that it can't be rigged for our current form of government. Too bad...

t seems to me that using the handicapped as an excuse for not moving forward with a verifiable voting system is again using the marginalized for nefarious purposes by those who oppose a verifiable system. I have been an election's inspector for many years in California and during the last 3 elections we have had handicapped assisted voting. NOT ONE PERSON has availed themselves, even though it's an expensive piece of equipment, paid for by taxpayer expense, but serving no one, at least in my experience. In fact, at least in Los Angeles, the handicapped have the best possible system. It's called vote by mail. It produces a verifiable ballot and hopefully the handicapped person who would have required assistance to get to a polling place could enlist the aid of that help to fill out a mail-in ballot instead. It's the VOTE that's important, NOT the polling place, so long as the vote gets counted.

I strongly believe that because my state, NH has optical scan and hand counting of ballots, we voted the way the rest of the country would have, had they had trusted machinery and trusted poll workers.

NH could be the roll model for the country!

Mayme