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Monday, June 11, 2007 12:00 AM

Steve Jobs locks up the iPhone

The Apple CEO's new plan to add third-party programs to his new phone disappoints people hoping for a fully functional pocket computer.

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Monday, June 11, 2007 01:12 PM

C'mon let's get techy

Don't like your style. Too bitchy and gossipy. Not enough meat and potatoes.

I don't think you are legitimate techy. More like Soledad but hell that was a long time ago.

Give me Kristi Lu Stout!

Monday, June 11, 2007 01:29 PM

I agree with the first comment

And I also think you like to bash Apple any chance you get. You never let an opportunity go by without mentioning what a flop the iPhone will be!

Monday, June 11, 2007 01:38 PM

Treo problems say that Jobs is right

I have a Treo 700p, and I think Jobs is dead-on right about not allowing 3rd party apps without approval. People expect, and frankly need, their phone to work and keep working and be reliable. My Treo crashes and has all sorts of problems, and every Treo I've had has been like that. I will get an iPhone as soon as possible because I trust Steve Jobs and Apple will make it reliable.

Monday, June 11, 2007 02:03 PM

Jobs is right

As a software developer and owner of a Treo, I agree with the previous post that Apple is smart not to allow third party apps on the iPhone, at least not for now. The great majority of the problems I have had with my Treo over the past two years involve third party software that crashed it. It is pain for me and I am a techie and long time PDA/smart phone user. The iPhone, like any consumer electronics device, must be highly reliable or it will fail miserably.

Monday, June 11, 2007 02:23 PM

Windows phones

Crash all the time. They brag about the 3rd-party apps they let on. It's not a feature, it's a bug.

Monday, June 11, 2007 02:27 PM

Mr Manjoo is being short-sighted

It is smarter for Apple to open the iPhone's Safari web browser to developers using Ajax and Web 2.0 standards. I don't know how many people you've talked to who are "let down" by this announcement, but I and most of my colleagues see a lot of potential for this. Think the Wii's standard-compliant Opera browser... Within days of the Wii becoming available, Wii-specific sites began springing up. Rather than closing the phone to a select group of developers who would have to rely on a development kit, web developers will be able to write applications for the phone using their existing skill set. That sounds like fun to me!

Monday, June 11, 2007 04:02 PM

Yet another example...

... of Mr Manjoo firing off a column on a topic he has obviously not done his homework on. The only other conceivable possibility is that he is shorting Apple stock! Propaganda In The Digital Age indeed!

Monday, June 11, 2007 04:03 PM

Too sorry you're so disappointed

I'm not sure why the writer is even bothering to write about the Stevenote today. There's no context at all; whatever it is Steve announced today, Manjoo doesn't like it. Whatever it was. This was a developer's conference; let's hear from some developers, not some crank who seems to feel the need to express his dissatisfaction and lack of interest in the future of the Mac OS, in order to prove his credentials to... who? Some bores like himself I guess. I'd recomment ArsTechnica.com, or even news.com for god's sake, as a place folks can learn what really happened today.

Monday, June 11, 2007 04:16 PM

A pedestal made by the Press

I find it amusing that people in the Press (especially those who really don't like Apple too much) feel that everything that comes from Apple and Mr. Jobs is supposed to change the Universe. I like how Mr. Manjoo says that the new features in Leopard are merely "evolutionary, not revolutionary". Who said that they were going to be revolutionary features?? Certainly not Apple, and certainly not Mr. Jobs. You did, Mr. Manjoo.

You and your fellow "tech journalists" put Apple on a pedestal that you people made. And then when Apple doesn't live up to the hype you all create, all of the sudden its a huge let down.

If you take a look at Vista and then take a look at Leopard, you'll see that what Apple has done is completely pass up Microsoft once again. They have features in Leopard that Vista never even began to think about. It will be the best OS on the planet, bar none. But I guess thats not good enough for you. What will it take?

And then we get to the iPhone announcement. After all of the crying about the iPhone being a closed environment, Apple opens the doors a bit to let some enterprising people through. And yet we still get the "its nice, but not nice enough". Seriously, if you want a phone that is filled with 3rd party hacks and buggy software, be my guest and buy one of the many phones running Windows mobile. They are plentiful, available today, and cheap as all hell. And they are wide open so you can download that cool application made by a 13 year old that completely crashes your phone rendering it useless until you fix it. What is Apple thinking keeping the iPhone closed??

Salon, please find a new tech writer. This guy is just an run of the mill blogger talking trash about stuff he doesn't really know anything about.

Monday, June 11, 2007 09:34 PM

Jobs is right and you're clueless

Jobs is looking much further down the road for developers to create apps that can make a transition from the iPhone to broader use and he's aware of the sorry state of third party phone apps today.

Add me to list of people who think you're just another wanker and really not anyone I'll bother reading again soon. It's too bad because I've been a Salon Premium subscriber for a few years now and expect a much higher standard for the writers here.

Monday, June 11, 2007 09:51 PM

FUD

"He pointed to Google's Maps program as an example, saying that the Maps app developed for the iPhone beats Google Maps on the Web. But now he seems to be saying that only big companies like Google may be allowed to create such privileged programs."

At All Things Digital, Steve actually said that Apple developed the map application on the iPhone using the Google API. I mean, I reflexively hate big companies, too, but sheesh, facts are important.

As for today's keynote, I was there, and it might not have been as exciting as some, but most of us developers have had access to the underlying guts of leopard for almost a year.

Of the new features, the new Finder, Spotlight enhancements, Stacks and Dot Mac sharing integration are going to be big improvements in my computing experience, but I don't go to WWDC to give oohs and ahhs out loud (sorry to mess up your count).

And if I can get an ssh shell on the iPhone, I could care less where the bits running it live.

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