I hope they do. America is dead it just doesn't know it yet. Your grandchildren will live in a country that looks more like India does now but it will be heading in the other direction. I hope millions starve.

That is the LAST STRAW!

We cannot afford to lose the BJ sector of the economy to RED CHINA!!!

We need a FIVE YEAR PLAN!!!

www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=atG3T7HbxKWk

When I read this post, I was struck by the non-optimal outcome, understandable as it was. The first question I thought of was "so why did this occur?"

I came up with the overarching thought pattern of the GM meme: "What's good for GM is good for the country." We offshore to make _insert GM like entity here_ more competitive in the world. We avoid investing in new technologies without a clear market directive because that would hamper _insert GM like entity here_'s global competitiveness (and leave them behind someone that *did* invest.)

Yet, we have deterministic evidence that the belief system doesn't hold true anymore (if it ever really did, I dunno.) We have made decisions, based on this major meme, along with others, that have been detrimental to our country, its people and their way of life.

Listening to the rhetoric of trade and global foorah that captains of industry, bankers, government leaders, etc. all spout in service to this belief makes me realize it's easy to think of conspiracy theories to explain it, but it might just be underpinnings of the way we're raised that does us in.

Of course, if you talk about changing that, you're obviously a communist or socialist or un-Americanist or something other -ist that needs to be shot on sight. I guess the days I think of as an American citizen where we'd sit around the table inventing new shit and sacrificing sacred cows left and right to double our corporate earnings every year for 10 years running is long gone when it comes to applying that energy to the common good. But if it's for profit, then it must be good for _insert GM like entity here_.

...the wind manufacturers in the US are actually laying off workers:

http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/37883834.html

Somehow we can't manage to get the stimulus money to these guys? Helluva thing.

Do remember that it was St. Ronnie and his administration that shut down alternative energy development in the early 80's. When government funding was withdrawn, many of these companies...wind and solar...were sold to foreign buyers. This is not a new problem. It's just an extension of another FAILED Repub policy.

Doesn't anyone else ever wonder where our country would be on energy today if the policies and energy research bankrolled by the Carter Administration hadn't been completely dismissed by the Teflon god?

"I hope millions starve."

Including yourself?

No I'll eat liberals.

All this BS about Green Jobs was nothing but pandering to left for Obama. No country can compete with China and it's endless supply cheap labor (not just cheap labor, but engineer, scientists, doctors, and government officials).

Whose faults is this. Americans for not being able to do simple math.

I couldn't help but be reminded of Aesop's fable of the Tortoise and the Hare.

But I would also like to point out that Andrew and many commenters villify the US inistence on free markets for this sad state of affairs without acknowledging the fact that "stimulus" money is not the free market and that most of these compnaies don't exist without hand-outs. Step back to the to the original premise - why is the US gov't underwrtiting them in the first place by re-distributing taxpayer wealth to entities that are not economically feasible. Sometimes it's better as investors to wait until someone else lays all groundwork, puts the upfront dollars in (potentially even fails) before coming in with a cramdown round.

for not building their own turbines and turbine industry.

Or were they waiting for free money to start doing that?

We don't have to go bankrupt and die just so we can keep kissing Chinese mercantile ass.

We really don't have to be wimps about this.

Attack the currency peg. Declare that the Chinese are currency manipulators. Change the terms of trade.

The alternative is passively watching as all the remaining American manufacturers, falling all over themselves and us as they stream for exits, heading offshore.

did anyone else initially do a double take at the headline

"Me? No I'll eat liberals."

So to put your statement in a more accurate light:

"I hope millions of liberals starve... so that I can feast upon their corpses."
-Zorkna

Right. Got it.

Not to tell a person what they should or shouldn't eat, but those piles of grease-fattened Red-Staters would probably be more savory fare.

Think of it as man-sized foie gras.

How in the world is this any different from Cash for Clunkers monies being used to purchase Hyundais?

Or TARP funds being funneled to US Banks' "foreign counterparties".

Or Stimulus funds being used to set up a Fisker's line in Finland?

Or the US Government giving alternative energy grants to Renault-Nissan (to, at least initially, set up a line in Japan)?

Answer: this article is just a variant of "but MY ox is being gored!"

speaking of blowing jobs. Check out the video that comes with this link about this case:

http://americaspeaksink.com/2009/11/debra-lafave-gets-justice/

I'm not a fan of BBQ.

While blame can be laid at the feet of the Government for not subsidizing the green energy revolution, nothing stopped companies from being forward thinking. Shouldn't great company's not just be reacting to change, but leading change?

When the candidates were lining up to run for mayor of San Diego a few years ago, one of them proposed a very large package of bond issues to make the city energy self sufficient, within twenty years, (instead of bond issues for new ball parks, and shopping malls). He probably got 2% of the vote. The Republican pro-business candidate won. During the Bush years Republicans were on a pogrom against liberals, one of the small fish caught up in their net was Mike Zucchet, 4th district in San Diego. He was like several of his counterparts environmentally active in local issues. At one point the cities most active environmentalist, Donna Frye won the mayors seats as a write in, but the judge threw it out, the meaning of the word bubble, is? So the process took a setback. Now of course we hear Republicans like Brian Bilbray take a stand against issues like offshore drilling. Do environmental concerns suffer because of partisan political grudges. What happened to this state during the energy scandal when ENRON traders raked us over the coals?

Sure Reagan thought trees cause pollution and ketchup is a vegetable, that's only the tiny tiny tip of the melting ice berg.