Letters to the Editor
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@jared2
"Cell phone calls during 9/11
"The passengers on the flights involved in 9/11 did use their cell phones, right?
I think it's interesting that cell phones can actually work when you're 40K feet up. What tower are they connecting to?"
Unfortunately, Mr. Smith is disinclined to address the many absurdities and impossibilities in the official 9/11 story. It is easier to dismiss all who question the official story as "kooks". Fortunately, their are highly experienced pilots who do question the government version of the events of 9/11. These include, to name a few:"
- Jared2, you provided no link to whatever document it is that these pilots have apparently endorsed or signed - I'd be interested in seeing it, myself.
I have always thought that the "official" version of the 9/11 events was, at least, sanitized; and at worst, entirely fabricated. Why the plane that hit the Pentagon did not have an escort of 10 or 20 jet fighters before it got to DC has always seemed very strange to me....It took about an hour to get there from Boston, the FAA knew it was hijacked, knew two similar jets had already hit the WTC, etc, etc.
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fulanodetal
Sorry about the omission. Here is the link to an organization called Pilots for 9/11 Truth. You can see a full list of members there, many of them highly qualified civilian and military pilots. They have come to no conclusions about 9/11 except that the official story is impossible.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/
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Reduced travel aggrevation section
I'd like a special section for people who want a decent travel experience. The entire travel-by-air experience has deteriorated to a level just short of intolerable -- a line that airlines seem to be deliberately trying to tread as closely as possible. It's no wonder flight attendants are snippy. Even when we, as passengers, are released from the horrors of confinement in an aluminum tube hurtling through the sky in massive discomfort and inconvenience, they either have to stay on the plane, or come back the next day, and do it all again, over and over. I would hate to add loud public chattering on cell phones to the existing mix.
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I haven't read the Spectrum article yet...
but the premise that RF from cell phones might interfere with GPS is interesting. My first experience with RF interference from a cell phone was on a guitar amp. Every once in a while, a staticky "dee-dee-dee-dee-dee" would overwhelm the (more-or-less) dulcet tones of my Fender. Turns out it was my Nokia. That experience, and the corporate pilot who posted earlier about hearing interference on his headset leads me to hypothesize that a very real danger of in-flight cell phone usage is disrupted communications.
A little crackle in the headset isn't necessarily a disaster; one can always request a repeat. It is inconvenient for ever-busier controllers to have to repeat instructions because someone had to call up Aunt Mabel while in flight. However, the small but real danger exists that pilots or controllers will think they heard something correctly through the static and act on wrong information.
I do wonder why lately it's been deemed OK to use cell phones while taxiing to the gate - I assume that pilots are still in communication with ground control at that point, and I'm sure that, while the stakes are a bit lower once we clear the runway, every once in a while, ground control will have something pretty important to say.
What do you say, Pilot?
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Cell Phones on Planes
On topic. Could be dangerous, but I would rather crash than listen to a bunch of people yelling into their phones for hours on end (they would have to yell, because they are so high up) LOL
Off topic. Here is a good link to a discussion on whether or not the cell calls alleged to have been made on Sept. 11, 01 were even possible. They were not.
9/11 was an inside job.
http://forums.gumtree.com/about135430.html
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Cel phones inflight
Please, flying sucks enough. If celphones are allowed inflight, I'll chose to drive. The thought of being stuck next to some idiot who needs to engage in meaningless conversations throughout a 4 hour flight sends chills up my spine. if celphone use is allowed on flights, look for fistfights in the aisles.
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@ fulandetal
Project Achilles Report Parts One, Two and Three
by A.K. Dewdney, January 23rd 2003
Preliminary low-altitude cellphone experiment
January 23 2003; 4:35 - 5:40 pm
Civic Airport, London, Ontario, Canada - http://www.physics911.net/projectachilles
Dewdney's work is the best done to date I believe. There are a lot of reasons to conclude that the 9/11 calls were never made. They were in fact social engineering. Totally fake. There is no other explanation since cell phones did not work at altitude and speed in 2001. See hand off speeds, and areas of receptivity for cell phone antennae for more info.
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one time airfone call
I actually used an airfone on a flight in 1991; I was flying home from college to surprise my mom on Thanksgiving. Denver was badly backed up and we weren't allowed to land for some time, resulting in me missing my connecting flight.
I had to let my buddy know that I wouldn't be arriving as scheduled as he would very likely be leaving within the hour to pick me up at my destination in Spokane.
Saved a lot of hassle, to be sure. Plus, it was 1991, and I was so much younger then--I was thrilled to have an excuse. Crazy, but it was just like talking on the phone!
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We need to ban the people who want to ban everyone else
For their own safety. I would hope that you hothouse violets who are sooooooooooo offended refrain from all speech at all times. Because listening to your self serious prattling makes me want to smash your fucking head on the drink cart. Seriously, if one of you so much as talks to me I will hit you until my arm gets too heavy to lift.
There, now we're equal.
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While I have always disliked the rules
because they appear arbitrary and, well, bogus (based on urban legend rather than hard reality), I DO fear the day when obnoxious, rude, disgusting blowhards are allowed to despoil yet another, admittedly borderline already, environment with their incessant, vacuous, pointless, nonsense blathering.
It is bad enough to have to put up with idiots on cell phones at theaters, restaurants, plays, bookstores, etc. I do NOT want to be packed into a sardine can airliner and be surrounded by fat, obnoxious people chattering about nonsense signifying absolutely nothing. Please, let us leave the airliner as it is: a tightly packed, uncomfortable shoebox that is, nonetheless, "peaceful" in its lack of cell phone jackasses.