Nerdnam is correct. There were no secondary charges, no explosion in the basement (as reported by Fox). The missing in action interceptors have no bearing on the matter. The buildings collapsed just as the government said. Just imagine bullets going through leaves and you have the whole picture.

You are like a stuck record Nerdnam, blah, blah, blah. You keep going on and on, totally ignoring all the other evidence. Read about William Rodriguez. http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/7762.html

Tell him its all about bullets going through leaves.

While you are it you can tell the firemen...

Official: Battalion 3 to dispatch, we've just had another explosion.

Official: Battalion 3 to dispatch, we've had additional explosion.

Dispatcher: Received battalion command. Additional explosion .

Dispatcher: Battalion 5, be advised we're trying to contact Battalion 3 at this moment to report north tower just collapsed.

Fireman1: Floor by floor it started popping out...

Fireman2: It was almost like they had detonators…

Fireman1: Yeah, detonators…

Fireman2: …planted to take down the building. boom-boom-boom-boom-boom….

Fireman1: All the way down. I was watching it and running..

And perhaps that bullet zipping through the leaves impacted the seismograph too... "The Palisades seismic data recorded a 2.1 magnitude earthquake during the 10-second collapse of the South Tower at 9:59:04 and a 2.3 quake during the 8-second collapse of the North Tower at 10:28:31.

While the aircraft crashes caused minimal earth shaking, significant earthquakes with unusual spikes occurred at the beginning of each collapse. Not only that, but these two unexplained spikes are more than twenty times the amplitude of the other seismic waves associated with the collapses!

This seismic record shows that as the collapses began - a huge seismic spike marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the earth."

And I guess your magic bullet het up the air so much that it caused all that molten metal to appear in the basement.

Why don't you try and refute some points rather than just repeating yourself?

What about WTC 7 - totally different construction, yet a progressive collapse?

Where were the interceptors nerdman? Where?

One final question? Did you believe the President when he told you about the WMD? Do you believe him now?

And yes, the collapse would have been accelerating as the weight of the mass above increased. But the resistance from the floor would not have grown less as it you stated earlier, each floor would have the same amount of resistance, the force from above would have increased. You had it backwards, like so much else. Either way, the collapse would have slowed and the towers would not have free falled as they did - as is measureable even through the smoke you find so hard to see through.

The question of what happened that day goes far far beyond physics. There is so much evidence for an inside job, or conversely so little evidence that it was Bin Laden, you spend the rest of your life blathering about bullets and leaves and never get to the core of the neocon crimes against America and the world.

Please feel free to call me an idiot. But before you do that, please refute all of the points made by myself and the others. Good luck!

What positive evidence do we have that American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon? I'm not talking about refuting supposed evidence against, but actual evidence in support.

1. Eyewitness testimony is worthless for at least two reasons: many eyewitnesses said that the plane hit the ground before hitting the building, which is patently false. Also, they didn't have the time to see the plane clearly before it hit.

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/6.jpg

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/pentalawn.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/11/national/main310721.shtml

The story of the plane making the circular dive contradicted the initial Bush Administration story about AA 77.

At the White House Friday, spokesman Ari Fleischer saw it a different way.

"That is not the radar data that we have seen," Fleischer said, adding, "The plane was headed toward the White House."

The Bush Administration has lied hugely about what happened in 9/11.

We are supposed to believe that mediocre terrorist pilots flew in a way that 90 percent of trained pilots couldn't fly, seriously jeaprodizing the mission (risking hitting the ground instead of the Pentagon), succeeding, yet hitting the Pentagon where it would do the least damage -- killing fewer than 200 persons instead of thousands.

If anyone believes this, I have some oceanside land for sale in the middle of the Sahara Desert.

2. Photographic evidence is neutral to against. There is no photographic evidence whatsoever in the public arena showing that the plane hitting was in fact a commercial airliner. Furthermore, all video evidence was seized. Only a few lousy pictures and very slow video that doesn't show what the thing was that hit the Pentagon have been released.

The release of those obscure images was done in manifest bad faith. Why don't they release a video that actually shows something? Probably because it would show something other than a commercial airliner.

The fireball is primarily from the fuselage, with minimal fire from the fuel in the wings.

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/pentalawn/pl8.jpg

Many columns remain where the wings should have penetrated. If they were strong enough to resist the wings, burning fuel would have splashed outward -- you'd see a ground covered with burning fuel. Instead, the ground wasn't touched.

Large wooden spools of industrial cable block the wings and were almost untouched.

3. Scraps and forensic evidence found there -- I can't recognize anything as definitely from AA77 myself. Given the Bush Administration's lies about 9/11, I refuse to believe this until I get independent confirmation from experts I can trust. If DNA from victims was found, I want proof that it was actually found in the Pentagon.

The on-time performance data from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics leaves out American Flights 11 and 77 completely for September 11th. (United Flights 93 and 175 are listed as "diverted.")

http://www.transtats.bts.gov/DL_SelectFields.asp?Table_ID=236&DB_Short_Name=On-Time&SYS_Table_Name=T_ONTIME&USER_Table_Name=On-Time%20Performance&Frequency=Monthly&Data_Frequency=Annual,Quarterly,Monthly&Num_Geo=2&Info_Only=0&Year_Info=1&Last_Year=2004&Origin_Field=ORIGIN_STATE_NM&Dest_Field=DEST_STATE_NM&Is_Big_Table=2

The Twin Towers: the spectacular attack

The Pentagon: the mild self-injury

Flight 93: the heartwarming tale of tragic heroism and self-sacrifice.

Why have almost none of the passenger lists actually included the hijackers? Where are the official manifests? Documents that can't be altered once the plane takes off?