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Thursday, October 9, 2008 12:00 AM

The hot A-11 offense's female cousin

Piedmont High's all-eligible scheme is the talk of football, but a coach in a women's pro league says he's been running it for three years.

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Saturday, October 11, 2008 11:51 AM

A-11 Legality

Very interesting article. It would be great to see some film of the female cousin! The A-11 is legal in 41 of 50 states in high school football. It can be run on 4th dowN, some 3rd down situations and in overtime in the NCAA. A-11 formations can be run on all downs in the NCAA & NFL by inserting properly numbered players in the formations. For more information www.a11offense.com. Hope this is helpful.

Saturday, October 11, 2008 11:33 AM

A-11 Footage

You can watch full Piedmont A-11 games at www.a11network.com

Friday, October 10, 2008 10:31 AM

A-11 Illegal in Most Leagues

Our research showed that the A-11, while innovative, is very likely to be found illegal in the NCAA and NFL, and indeed, as you note, even in high school in most states.

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/sports/July-08/Is-the-A-11-Really-Football-s-Offense-of-the-Future.html

Thursday, October 9, 2008 12:09 PM

Thanks for the update

So the offense worked well, except against an excessively talented team. Interesting. That's usually hard to overcome even with a unique scheme.

I'm still interested in what teams are doing to defend against this, or what the teams running these would do with their defense if they came up against a team that decided to run a similar scheme. I'm not sure what I'd do, but I don't pretend to be a football coach, except when I yell at the tv while watching games. And that never seems to work.

Thursday, October 9, 2008 11:29 AM

I'd really like to watch a team using this offense....

but I don't suppose either of these teams' games are broadcast anywhere, are they?

Thursday, October 9, 2008 08:50 AM

Playoff loss

J T Apparently the California Quake rode their Spread offense to an undefeated season, but lost in the playoffs. I'm curious if that playoff loss could be attributed to an opponent devising a way to defense the strange offensive scheme, or it was due to some other cause.

They ran into the Dallas Diamonds, who Penn says are the best team in women's football. It certainly looks that way from their record. They outscored their opponents 423-33 in the regular season, with five shutouts in eight games. They won one game 91-0. Even taking that game out, they won their other seven by an average score of 47-4. In the playoffs, including a 69-3 win over the Quake, they outscored opponents 142-38 in three games.

If it was a defense that sorted things out, that knowledge has a way of spreading and making these novel offensive schemes much less effective. It'll happen eventually for both the Spread and the A-11.

Sure. It's already happening. This offense, whether it's the A-11 or whatever, is just an offense. Any offense can be defended.

Thursday, October 9, 2008 08:42 AM

Evolution in action n/t

"I must enter something into the letter body."

Why?

Waste of bandwidth.

Thursday, October 9, 2008 06:44 AM

that playoff loss

Apparently the California Quake rode their Spread offense to an undefeated season, but lost in the playoffs. I'm curious if that playoff loss could be attributed to an opponent devising a way to defense the strange offensive scheme, or it was due to some other cause (injury to key players, just plain bad game, or some of the other weird things that happen in sports like bad bounces and odd referee calls).

If it was a defense that sorted things out, that knowledge has a way of spreading and making these novel offensive schemes much less effective. It'll happen eventually for both the Spread and the A-11.

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 07:13 PM

Hard to describe in words

I'm not conviced yet, if out King likes it, I will pay attention.

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