Letters to the Editor
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925 is equal to a 50% graduation rate?
Good grief, the O schools I am most familiar with, from my home state The OSU to my adopted state orange OSU and UofO, are truly and deeply pathetic. Not that I would expect anything more from any of them. Mike Belotti, Riley? Shouldn't be allowed near anyone below the age of 25. And Ohio State? Well, let's just say I was born in Ohio, but I learned a long ago that it's far better to be FROM Ohio than to be IN Ohio.
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Rock on Rutgers
Yeah baby, aside from the service academies -- and they don't count -- Rutgers tops the poll. As a proud alum I take this as encouraging evidence that we still are not taking the football thing too seriously. hell, our coach hasn't even abandoned the team for a more lucrative offer this week.
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Sorry Buffalonian
You missed BC. But you're still up there :).
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The Chick-Fil-A Bowl????
The Meineke Car Care Bowl? I am supposed to take these games seriously? What, no Wal-Mart Bowl? No Dollar Store Bowl?
Here's some booming businesses these days - don't be surprised if you see new bowl games with these titles:
1.) Betty Ford Clinic Bowl
(no beer served)
2.) Estate Liquidators Bowl
3.) Evangelical Church of Christ Bowl
4.) Gazullo Brothers Waste Disposal Bowl
5.) Hair Club For Men Bowl
6.) Jenny Craig Bowl
7.) Mildew Control Services Bowl
8.) Paternity Testing Diagnostics Bowl
9.) Urine Analysis Labs Bowl
10.) Valley Sewer and Septic Bowl
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Conspiracy
I'm assuming if your team has had, oh, roughly 75 guys leave early for the NFL, that will hurt your APR. Right? Better to bench those 'soon to be millionaires' to send them a message: Go to your Early Scandanavian History class, NOW, Jerome. Your 4.3 means nothing in the real world.
I like this Starr Consipiracy. Looks like it has legs. I think it finally proves that politicians aren't perfect. Wait..
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How many college teams have 75 guys leave early for the NFL?
I mean, seriously.
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Derrick Jackson does this every year
And he also includes the race angle. Somewhere there's even a bar graph, which makes things nice and visual. I believe he does brackets for March Madness as well.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/12/08/in_the_college_game_the_goals_that_matter/
The Mitchell Report, I'm having a hard time getting worked up over it. A few months back, I accepted the truth: everyone was doing it. Bonds goes in to the HOF, Clemens goes in the HOF. WTF. Don't know what that means in terms of whether I care less about sports or not. But damn, bike racing, track-and-field...do steroids help you hit a golf ball further? (Insert obligatory golf-as-sport joke here.) Steroids are everywhere.
But yeah King, I like your idea. An amnesty up front would have been the right way to go. Maybe even anonymity. Maybe more players would have stepped up, maybe not, who knows? As it is, the report is useless, just tittilation, not confirmatory.
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You missed a game...
Jan. 1
NHL Winter Classic - Buffalo, NY
Pittsburgh: 0
Buffalo: 0
The NHL's Eastern Conference has given up on any pretense of academic standards. The pay's better, however, because it's all above board.
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RE: Conspiracy
From what I gathered, a school is not punished in the APR for someone who leaves school to go pro.
from wikipedia:
"The APR is designed to measure semester-by-semester academic progress, and is separate from the Graduation Success Rate (GSR), which only aims to measure the actual percentage of student-athletes who graduate, thus omitting students who would have graduated but left school early for non-academic reasons (such as a professional career)."
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Starr?!?
Oh, boy, not this again. What is that thing about when Starrs align?
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Graduation rates for football teams would be horrible if it weren't for the fact that...
In the 2006-07 year, the graduation rate for all NCAA athletes was 63%. I'll pause here while the inevitable wailing, gnashing of teeth, and self-righteous cries that NCAA athletics is a business finish up.
In the 2006-07 year, the graduation rate for all students at NCAA institutions who weren't athletes was...wait for it...
62%. If you don't believe me, read the article: http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:4IPXU5LwfA8J:chronicle.com/weekly/v54/i11/11a03402.htm+%22Graduation+rates%22+%22student+body%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
That's right, only 62% of all students graduated within six years of enrollment. Some quit and came back. Some transferred and graduated elsewhere. But using the same metric King used in his article, the bare truth is that fewer non-athletes graduate on time than athletes.
Put that in your next article.
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Graduation Rates for Blacks in D-1 Football & Basketball are Criminal despite $$$ they make for others
from coaches, ad's, university presidents, those who make a living off of Black college players is beyond the pale....
But this stat is no newsflash it has been an aspect of the business of college sports for years.....
Solution: All student-athletes will have education paid for regardless even when eligibility has expired. Some schools have already gone down this path and I applauded them....
Solution: All Graduation rates should be tied to salaries of all university coaches, ad's and presidents, regents
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a christmas miracle!
Well how 'bout that? Thrasher and I actually agree on something!
You're right, it IS criminal, and it IS wealthy white institutions making big BIG money off poor black athletes, offering them an "education" in return.
Curt Flood's assessment is apt here...
(i guess if you and I can agree on something there's hope yet in Israel and Palestine :)
cheers!
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A question to Debaser...
Yes, I suppose it could be considered a scandal that only 49% of male African-American athletes graduate within six years. Scandal, scandal.
Now explain to me why only 39% of male African-American non-athletes graduate within six years. (Source: same report I referred to above.) Obviously, US universities are cynically exploiting non-athletes, leaving them to fall out of college without a degree. For shame, for shame!
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Third Man
It's all a matter of degrees my friend.
The idea that schools do whatever they can to get your money from you is not news to anyone who ever went to one :)
The difference is, they don't make tens of (hundreds of?) millions of dollars off the average dude that dropped out of his Psych program in Junior year, but they sure do make TONS of money on them athletes...even those who do graduate end up with an essentially useless degree. (somebody here had a few brilliant posts about this about a month back - a professor himself? Amerigo I think?).
Which is not to say that the stats you unearthed aren't interesting, they are...it's just that they don't really contradict the fact that university athletes are used (yes used) by the institutions to make hundreds of millions of dollars and they get very little in return.
cheers,