I think so.

And it really ought be welcome news to any Republican who thought that Cheney was hurting the party.

It's a further indication of the intellectual bankrupcty of the American media.

Pelosi told, and continues to tell blatant lies.

mike madden calls that a "stumble".

. . . remember the concept of objectivity?

They are agreeing that Bush tortured.

What is Pelosi guilty of.

Knowing about the Bush torture program.

Who's torture program.

It's not the Pelosi torture program.

These Republicans are just to easy.

The GOP should officially anoint Cheney their true leader. That might even boost his approval rating up into the low 20s.

Sounds like a fair trade to me.

The only person that kept Bush form being impeached and they want to burn her at the stakes.

You Republicans are a bunch of geniuses I tell ya.

LOL.

This absurd play doesn't work without the cooperation of television news. But, this one is so absurd, I'm just not sure it's going to work.

Hypocrisy, when exposed, can be quite entertaining.

that politics is done by politicians, who are uniquely qualified to manage the country. and so it's true: it's either the blue gang or the red gang who run the country, depending on the previous stylized combat of taxcow-counting.

reality doesn't matter, ethics doesn't matter, nothing matters but harvesting votes and sitting in the seats of power.

the on-lookers, the taxcows, are sometimes bemused by the amorality of politicians, because they haven't grasped the notion that all those sweet words at vote-counting time are issuing from characters who would be perfectly at home in a meeting of the hitler cabinet.

in any event, americans are content to be powerless on-lookers, gossiping about their masters as slaves do, but never imagining there is a better level of life, as a citizen of a democracy.

this should have been easy.

if obama and congress had not been so rock-headed dumb about this entire issue they could be on the unassailable high ground on this issue. instead, they are scrambling, defending against ridiculous attacks that are obviously meant to distract.

it was just flat stupid to think that they could sweep this under the rug. understanding that they were ultimately going to have to deal with it, as one of his first acts, obama should have appointed a special prosecutor, told him to investigate any and everyone associated with possible war crimes and left it in the hands of that politically-immune professional.

and then, democrats should have, with a united front, declared a clean, unequivocal break with all of the bush anti-terrorism policies and left the republicans trying to justify that sordid mess.

and if any dems didn't go along, well, they could be out there with republicans trying to justify torture and all of the other horrors that would come into the light.

instead, obama is having his lunch eaten by cheney. cheney is leading him around like a boy with his new puppy.

he deserves it.

now, i cannot wait for the first response that reminds us dummies that obama is executing a sophisticated political maneuver that will be revealed in due time.

what tripe!!

Is all in the heads of Mike Madden and the beltway insiders. To the rest of us, it's all a bunch of bullshit parlor tricks.

Bottom Line: Pelosi wants an investigation. If she were hip-deep in all of this (the GOP's wet, deluded dream), WTF would she want a truth commission?

Regardless of the degree of her complicity, NONE of it mitigates the role of Bush & Cheney as the primary protagonists for torturing people to advance a political agenda (Iraq's ties to Al Qaeda).

Anyone who thinks this issue is going to be kept under wraps is kidding themselves. Too many people are starting to speak out and it cuts too close to the bone for most honest people. This country needs a Torture Debate.

P.S. E-man, you keep holding on to your belief that Cheney's not hurting your party.

are smart enough not to fall for a bait-and-switch.

Mr. Cheney is the puppet-master. Pelosi (assuming everything her detractors say about her is true, and everything she says in her defense is an outright lie) is only a storm-trooper, not Darth Vader. If Pelosi needs to be fired or tried after that, we can deal with that later.

This is just another distraction.

Nancy Pelosi is not the issue. Who authorized the torture of prisoners in American custody is the issue. Who authorized it and who carried it out. THAT is the issue.

Torture is against the law. The Bush Administration authorized it. They should all be investigated and, if found to be responsible, prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Republicans with the aid of the Corporate Media are just trying to change the focus.

And unfortunately, too many Americans are falling for it. But hey, how can they not? The Corporate Media has to fill 24 hours, seven days a week. So, rather than give us the real news, they fill those hours with gossip, bullshit and distractions. Gotta keep 'em entertained, after all.

As a 24-year veteran of the U.S. Air Force, I am appalled that these people are not being investigated and prosecuted. Makes me want to puke.

And I think Pelosi should resign. I'm one of her constituents, and utterly shamed by her complicity in this. If the entire Democratic leadership, complicit in the torture of innocent human beings over the past eight years, resigned, I would still say they should be prosecuted and jailed if they've violated the law, right alongside our former President. This is a black and white issue.

Let's hope Obama pulls his foot out of this beartrap before he too becomes a war criminal, if he is not in fact already one.

I'm with bdop4. Her call for a truth commission isn't the act of someone with something to hide. Making a big deal of this at a press conference and accusing the CIA of misleading her in 2002 also aren't acts of someone with something to hide. I thought she seemed confident of her position.

I want Democrats to use this Pelosi-hunt to get the truth commission Republicans have been resisting. We know they have a lot more to hide --- something to do with actually being able to give orders as opposed to maybe having been told something without the authority to do anything about it.

By setting up Pelosi, the Republicans made it harder to claim an investigation is just a partisan witch hunt. Let's call their bluff, and demand all the memos, briefings etc.