Letters to the Editor
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actually, WES
one of them has to get to 2025, unless Edwards' 26(?) delegates come into play, meaning they'd be at something like 2012-2012. Unlikely.
Oh, and since Spitzer resigned, it's actually 2024, not that that's anything but a nitpick.
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sPenn cycle
"Barack Obama recently declared himself the frontrunner in the race, although there are 10 contests remaining and MI and FL have not yet been decided. But a look at the polls shows that Sen. Obama’s lead nationally with Democrats has been evaporating." -Penn
He seems to be trying to claim that Obama doesn't hold a lead -despite the fact that having more delegates at the moment definitively means that- over Clinton, but then contradicts himself in the next sentence. This man's words are barely worth reading or hearing. He's just another disengenuous distorter of facts.
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WES What Happened?
I recall a previous conversation with you where you were telling me how Hillary is despised in your state of Ohio.....What happened?
A lot of Republicans voted for Hillary.
Also, if FL and/or MI are added back in, the required nomination total won't be 2025, it will increase.
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HRC Has Reached Also-Ran Status
HRC Has Reached Also-Ran Status
When will the mainstream media relegate Hillary to second tier coverage?
In sports competitions, like the pennant races in MLB, for example, once a team is mathematically eliminated from making the playoffs, the national sports media ignores them in their coverage of the race for the playoffs.
HRC has been mathematically defeated. It's over.
Yet she is still receives the coverage only due a contender.
The press should be focusing on McCain and Obama, not on the exaggerations and outright falsehoods still being spewed by the desperate Clinton campaign apparatus.
The "Ready From Day One" nonsense that served as the foundation for her candidacy has crumbled. Her "experience" assertions have proven to be illusionary, padded accounts of typical First Lady duties. And beyond her First Lady experience lies nothing.
The media needs to toss John and Barack onto the grill, light the charcoal, and begin roasting these two guys; expose their strengths and weaknesses; deconstruct their campaign platitudes; see which one can take the heat and which one cannot.
Wasting resources on HRC serves no useful purpose any longer. She's out of the pennant race and needs to be covered as the sports media covers the also-rans.
The public has sufficiently seen what's there...and the public has said, No Thanks.
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Mark Penn is unreliable
Between his pimping for Blackwater, his pimping for John McCain, and his pimping for Hillary, we know only one thing about Penn.
He's a pimp.
He has no principles except "where's the money." His insights are governed by his payments. His scientific method is shit (speaking as a professional here, he knows didly). His ideas about clustering/segmentation are entirely theoretical, and have no relationship to actual data. It's just crap.
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Just To Throw This Out To You Obama Fans
Today Obama had this to say about his grandmother on Philly sports radio (don't know why he's still even campaigning in PA, he'll lose by a landslide):
The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. [I thought she uttered racial stereotypes that made you cringe.] But she's a typical white person [!!!] who — if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know — there's a reaction that's been bred into our experiences that don't go away, and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that's just the nature of race in our society. We have to break through it.
Yeah, we typical white people. We run from people on the street we don't know and utter stereotypes that make Obama cringe. I'm just grateful he hasn't disowned us all.
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Oh, give the brat a cookie so he shuts up...
Yippppepeeeee, he got Murtha.
OK so now so shut the hell up 'cause you're not getting anything else!
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Read Farhad Manjoo's recent piece about finding bias?
And that's rock bottom...
Well, War Room has bottomed out. Claiming that Penn's comment of a shift in voter's opinions is outlandish when a Gallup poll shows Clinton leading nationally by 7 points (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/20/poll-clinton-takes-national-lead-over-obama/) is ridiculous, unacceptable pro-Obama misinformation. Tim Grieve never would have done that, or allowed that on his blog.
Salon better do all they can to hang on to Glenn Greenwald and Andrew Leonard.
-- wright5579
Mr. Koppelman didn't make the claim. He reported that Jake Tapper from ABC refuted Penn's analysis. You're finding bias where there is none.
Though, I'll admit, I don't take Penn's claims to be worth much.
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wright5579 tracking polls
Aside from giving us all something to jaw about, daily tracking polls are known for being really noisy, so to make the type of claims that Penn is making is a bit of a stretch. I think we'll have to wait until PA is done to get a better sense of the strengths of Hillary and Obama.
I agree that maybe this isn't the most news worthy story around. How about that big juicy NRCC scandal instead?
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@scotty
Actually, he uses Jake Tapper's report (who is only mentioned after a few paragraphs written by Koppelman) as confirmation of his biased view.
"At least one outside pollster is already dismissing Penn's analysis. On his blog, ABC News' Jake Tapper has the reaction of Peyton Craighill of the ABC News Polling Unit..."
It's a matter of Koppelman seeing something that doesn't fit his pro-Obama bias, and feels that enough people will see it that he needs to explain it away. My point is that Tim Grieve wouldn't have done that, and this is indicative of the way War Room is run now, and frankly it's alienating War Room readers. I find myself spending a lot more time reading Greenwald and Leonard now that Tim's gone.
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Penn
Go back to penning dime store novels, Obama's gonna write another chapter in the Penn state.
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Fester
My problem is that Koppelman found it necessary to waste War Room space explaining the noisy polls away.
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@wes
Actually, I said she was despised in SW Ohio, and that's actually proven accurate: Obama did better in SW Ohio than anywhere else, although the Republicans in the 1st and 2nd Congressional district (home of radio host Bill Cunningham and Rush Limbaugh has a huge following) came out of the woodwork to vote Hillary. Exit polls back this up, feel free to check.
As to rules, I'm not sure what you're talking about? Obama's always been happy with 2025 but also willing to accept other numbers the national party suggests are appropriate with or without MI and FL. He's not the candidate barnstorming the country to change the rules AFTER the game's been played. He's not the candidate suggesting pledged delegates are fair game for poaching. He's not the candidate who crying about proportional representation the party has used for ages, and all candidates accepted when this was still a Hillary Coronation, not an election.
But who knows? The Hillary campaign changes it's tune more often than Hillary changed her hairdoo when Bill ran things. It's really impossible to keep track of what they believe, when the story changes daily, and the goal posts are moved with every Hillary defeat. Mark Penn's argued every side of every question so far... he's starting to run in circles now!