Letters to the Editor
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the big shift
i dont understand the glee here for the democrats over a possible stumbling by a black candidate and his black church. the dems are beginning to sound like rush limbaugh who is bragging about blooding up obama (his words). what does vetting this candidate mean then? how does it not hurt hillary with the party. it disgusts me. find another angle dear lady becasue it is getting mighty tiresome to hear about the vetting of the black guy when you yourself have had the cinderella advantage for the last thirty years of your life married to a politico.
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Polls are noisy, but
It does look as though recent opinions question Obama.
The big deal isn't so much whether Clinton is leading (they are, as they have been, neck-and-neck). The big deal is that Obama's numbers are dropping, without the Clinton campaign doing anything.
This type of self-destruction is exactly the kind of thing that worries me about an unvetted, inexperienced Obama campaign going up against the Ring Wing Attack Machine.
I like Obama. I like Clinton. I'd love them both on the same ticket. If he were the VP candidate, he would have the chance to get completely vetted, without costing Democrats the election.
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The Obama Campaign
Is crippled. Now we have to decide what we are going to do about it.
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Clinton's other strategist is trying to compare Obama's pastor to the KKK
Surrogate Lanny Davis is the one making the claims:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Isn't that nice? Be sure to smear a black guy by comparing him to the KKK. That always wins people's hearts and minds.
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Fear of a Black Planet
Whatever Clinton's complicity in Ferraro's comments, the combination of her comments and the debate over Obama's preacher's sermons, as well as much other news in the past two weeks is an attempt - whether deliberate and coordinated or not - to drag Obama down by raising racial fears.
That considered, I think the proper reaction to Penn's spin, and to the whole racial fear-mongering campaign is: "Don't Believe the Hype"
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Hillary Clinton says the Michigan vote shouldn't count for anything
Here's the audio:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ULxxBz-PAjg
Also, this story shows that all the Democratic donors pushing for a Michigan revote have Hillary Clinton connections:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-03-19-michigan_N.htm
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Not on the betting markets
Betting markets are said to be much more accurate predictors than polls. Both Intrade and the Iowa Electronic Markets have Obama by a nearly three to one lead over Clinton. The numbers have drifted slightly against Obama this week. Nothing dramatic enough to warrant Penn's claim.
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There Is No Double Standard
On Michigan and Florida. The initial agreement was based on the assumption of a candidate clinching early, even if Hillary thought it was going to be her. Now no one is going to get to the required 2025. So changes have to be made to make the 2025 or the popular vote attainable for either one.
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We Did The Rules
And no one is going to get 2025. So the thing to do is change the rules.
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@clbrune
I can envision circumstances where Hillary would be a better President than Barack, but I can't imagine ANY circumstance where either would fit on the other's ticket. Obama would be a fool to accept that "warm bucket of spit" role, and spend the next 4 years at the back of the bus, behind Bill, before being tarred by whatever scandal swallows the Clintons up mid-term. Likewise, Hillary is more valuable to the party and her constituency in the Senate, or maybe even as Governor of NY than playing warming the chair behind Obama. Forget the effects of this campaign on their relationship, consider that President Obama would have a power-mad Hillary one heartbeat away from his job... can you imagine the conspiracy theories were something to happen to him? Ask LBJ! How could this be good for the party or the country?
As Jake Tapper points out in his piece, most of the number Penn cites come from polls the respectable media consider to be not "airworthy" - he clarifies this to mean those with poor methodologies. So there really is no shift here, just more Penn spin.
At any rate, as Hillary continues withholding information, and sitting on her tax returns, her own credibility and chances are weakened. Where did she come up with $5million to loan her campaign on a $120,000/yr salary? Whose giving Bill money? Did she or didn't she attend the pardon meetings for her own criminal family members and Clinton supporters? She can run, but she can't hide. She has refused to be vetted, while calling for others to damage Obama. Obama's had his Wright Moment, and it will surely resonate through November if he's nominated with the right. But Hillary's secrets remain hidden, and she continues resisting all legitimate attempts to force her disclosure of what all other candidates have disclosed. Can the party really afford to leave her vetting to the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (who continue campaigning for Republicans to vote for Hillary as their desired opponent in the fall)? Why would they tip their hand when they clearly WANT to face Hillary? She's the REpublican's Dream Candidate... So I suspect putting Obama on her ticket or vice versa is their Dream ticket too (no oppo work wasted).
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@Notorius W.E.S.
I thought you were a Clinton supporter? What's with all the "rules" talk? You guys hate the rules (unless Hillary's on top). Cut it out... some one might take you seriously.
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dave
No the Obama folks are the ones opposed to the rules. They want the nomination without 2025.
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Shift to Hillary?
When did Penn begin penning science fiction and fantasy? Well, he has some seasoned experince at it for as long as he's hacked for Hillary crummy camgaign.
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dave
I recall a previous conversation with you where you were telling me how Hillary is despised in your state of Ohio.....What happened?
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And that's rock bottom...
Well, War Room has bottomed out. Claiming that Penn's comment of a shift in voter's opinions is outlandish when a Gallup poll shows Clinton leading nationally by 7 points (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/20/poll-clinton-takes-national-lead-over-obama/) is ridiculous, unacceptable pro-Obama misinformation. Tim Grieve never would have done that, or allowed that on his blog.
Salon better do all they can to hang on to Glenn Greenwald and Andrew Leonard.