Letters to the Editor
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@wayannas10: judgement is foresight
Everyone knows hindsight is 20/20.
You have it completely backwards on this point. Stop with " the Outcome couldn't have been forseen" fable. Experience is supposed to lead to judgement which leads to foresight. A leader is supposed to above popular lustings for revenge and destruction. Especially mischanneled ones. A leader is supposed to put the good of the country above person political calculation. Brent Scowcroft thought this war was a bad idea before it happened. Dick Cheney in 1994 thought this war would be a mistake. His video (link on a prior post of mine in this thread) has eerily predicted the outcome. Two prominent Republican Hawks among many others. You and Hillary should be like John Edwards and admit that a terrible mistake was made.
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is there a reason
Is there a reason, oh wise and powerful Salon editors, that Manos has not been banned yet?
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beneficial- I know. sp
I agree saj, we need someone who will make decissions not speeches. I think Obama needs more time and refining to be President qualified, I'm not against that at all. Also, he has no foreign policy exp. he can't claim living in a foreign country as a child experience, I'm sure he had no foreign dignitary contact at the time.
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Coffe or tea...
...is not a policy. It might be in somebody's insular alternative wonderbread white house world, but it isn't in the real world. If you brown nosed Billarybots think so, you're selling yourselves a steaming pile of Billary bullshit and swallowing it with a smile, digging into like a lot of lost little orphan's who'll just ask for more, until it dawns on your dim brains that you can smell the stupid stench of what you've been ingesting, at Hillary's slick suggesting. Bon appetite.
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records
well person, that would be like my fourth cousin twice removed.
And let's allow manos to vent, it isn't good to hold in anger and stress- I think it leads to infidelity.
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manos 99
Do you enjoy being offensive? Do you want to help Sen Obama or do you want us to see what blind adherence to one side does to our effort to win the Presidency? Using swear words merely tells me that you have no reasonable argument. If you are an Obama supporter you should take a leaf from the Senator. He can turn an argument against him with grace and style. And he is effective.
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hey uncle fester
Come on, we are talking about the twisted theory of Republicans in action. Republicans don't have foresight, they see and do.
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no prob bob
just popping a few postules.
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Zenwick, truly interested in how you'll respond to this
The point is, Hillary has been through many fights, and is still standing.
What fights are you referencing specifically that doesn't have to do with "blow jobs" or "passenger seat"? And how are those "fights" relevant to this election or make he a better candidate? And don't offer up the same old, tired sexist argument.
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zenwick
Okay, name one.
Her battle for New York? It started out against Guiliani, who was diagnosed with prostate cancer, and as Wikipedia coyly puts it, had "developments in his personal life become very public" and thus dropped out.
This left her against a frantically cobbled together campaign by Rick Lazio.
That isn't being tested.
Nor is running against some guy from Yonkers who didn't even have the Republican party's support in his run.
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Present Votes and Racism
@sajwan - The use of a "present" vote is common in the Illinois legislature. See this description. And, in case you think Abner Mikva is just another Obama apologist, he gave up a position as a federal judge to serve as White House counsel to Bill Clinton.
Now on to racism. Obama is no neophyte. He is a year older than Bill Clinton was when Clinton ran for the presidency.
Who is to say Obama would not have risen more quickly had he been white? Is it possible, as a Harvard Law Review president, that he would have been recruited for office? Would he have had become an attorney general, and then governor, like another elite trained politician making news? How many black governors have been elected in US history? (3) How many black US senators? (again, 3). So where, exactly, is the big advantage in his race?
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Link
Here is the link that didn't appear in code re above -
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/opinion/16mikva.html?ref=opinion
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the view from Spain -
everybody is for Obama - wait there is one waiter in this restaurant who has the hots for Hillary bit he is around 64 and bold - does it count?
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@SueNJ97
SueNJ97: Hey Sue, thanks for the message. Let's see what you wrote...
Sue: "I had a very strange experience on Sunday ... I sat in a kitchen with eight people who supported the two different democrats, plus two people who were undecided about voting for a Democrat or McCain. The 4 Obama supporters, all white liberal women in their 40s, told me it was extremely important to elect a black, now, to show that we are not racist, after the horror of the Bush years. ... They didn't seem to care about anything except appearing not to be racist. The 4 Clinton supporters pointed to specific policies they liked, mostly the health care proposals and some of the economic proposals."
Hmmmm. Well, I think those women are goofy.
It's funny you mention your story, because they other day I was out with 5 Clinton supporters, 3 Obama supporters, and a penguin. The 5 Clinton supporters all said they wanted Clinton to win because they wanted to hear her say "Shame on you!" to Ahmadinejad. They didn't care about anything else, they just wanted to hear Clinton attack foreign leaders while shaking her finger and saying "Shame on you!" I talked to the Obama supporters and they all supported Obama based on his policies, his Iraq war vote, etc.....pretty boring stuff. The penguin said he was voting for McCain's lobbyist friend. Oh P.S. -- the Aristocrats!
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@SueNJ97
SueNJ97: Hey Sue, thanks for the message. Let's see what you wrote...
Sue: "I had a very strange experience on Sunday ... I sat in a kitchen with eight people who supported the two different democrats, plus two people who were undecided about voting for a Democrat or McCain. The 4 Obama supporters, all white liberal women in their 40s, told me it was extremely important to elect a black, now, to show that we are not racist, after the horror of the Bush years. ... They didn't seem to care about anything except appearing not to be racist. The 4 Clinton supporters pointed to specific policies they liked, mostly the health care proposals and some of the economic proposals."
Hmmmm. Well, I think those women are goofy.
It's funny you mention your story, because they other day I was out with 5 Clinton supporters, 3 Obama supporters, and a penguin. The 5 Clinton supporters all said they wanted Clinton to win because they wanted to hear her say "Shame on you!" to Ahmadinejad. They didn't care about anything else, they just wanted to hear Clinton attack foreign leaders while shaking her finger and saying "Shame on you!" I talked to the Obama supporters and they all supported Obama based on his policies, his Iraq war vote, etc.....pretty boring stuff. The penguin said he was voting for McCain's lobbyist friend. Oh P.S. -- the Aristocrats!
