Letters to the Editor
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Should Obama go negative?
Obviously, it would be nice if he didn't have to. However, the last week showed that relentless negative campaigning on Clinton's part is working for her (can anyone remember anything she has said in the past month that wasn't an open or covert attack on Obama?). Simply responding to her attacks (as with the NAFTA stuff, showing them to be pure bunk) isn't working for him.
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Clinton's Curious Claims, Obama's Altered Democracy, and a Possible Resolution
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/carpenter/004
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The Democrats as a whole
will have nobody but themselves to blame for their own destruction. This election should be a "gimme" given the unprecedented fucktartedness of the Bush admin. But each day the pissing contest continues and the Dems get closer to doing what they do best, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
As an independent voter I am on the brink of saying "fuck 'em both". Maybe the Republicans deserve 4 more years in the presidency so they can live with the shitty mess Bush has created with nobody to blame but themselves. I figure the stress of the job ought to kill McCain in the first month. Four more years might be what it takes to drive a stake into the heart of the foul beast that is the Republican Party. Tea Bag me Elephantman.
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the reason
The reason we non-Obamaholics roll our eyes at his turning negative is not so much because we are shocked that he would dare do such a thing, but more because we've seen it coming for a long time.
Obama and his campaign can talk sweetly about bringing change to politics, but when it comes right down to it and he has to fight tooth and nail against a capable opponent to get nominated, he's as willing as the rest of them to play dirty.
So much for hope and change.
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If Obama wanted to get negative
If the Obama camp wanted to get negative, they could ask the media a very simple question about her experience. They could ask who had higher security clearance in the White House-- Hillary Clinton or Monica Lewinsky.
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sajwan
____If I sound condecending, then good because I am sure sick of all this Obama sainthood, high road, not stooping, new and holier cow poopy.
Obamites can now come down to earth and join the rest of us sinners._____________
How well you parrot your candidate and how well you imitate her behavior.
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"30 Year Experience" = Part Of The Problem
And her campaign tactics show Hillary is nothing but Karl Rove in heels.
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Clinton plays both the attack dog and the victim
And Americans nod their heads in righteous indignation or cry with her, depending on how she is framing herself that hour.
I had thought that all her tactics were as pathetic and transparent to everyone as they are with me, but after hearing an interview with a man in Ohio who said he won't vote for Obama because he is Muslim (with isn't true, as far as Hillary Clinton knows), I was reminded once again how incredibly stupid the typical American voter really is.
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that is a rude yet funny comment...
I am surprised the First Lady doesn't have a clearance but it turns out it is true....
What experience could she possible have if she wasn't even briefed enough to require a clearance?
Scheduling? Even some of that requires a clearance.
She probably has had more inside info as a Senator then as first lady....
McCain will kill her on the very thing she is running on! What a strange plan. But I guess if it is about survival....
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Obama was never on the high road!
Please save us all the rhetoric about how you hope Obama doesn't stoop to the level of Clintons and go negative. He went negative the night after New Hampshire and hasn't looked back.
They brought false charges of injecting race to drive a wedge between Clinton and black voters. Why on earth would Clinton do that? For all the white male vote that she won't get anyway? Give me a break!
That Obama campaign knew if they were going to win this thing they were going to need to peel off the black vote from the Clintons. And, to their Machiavellian credit, they did it in a masterful stroke that pointed the problem back to Clinton.
Either you don't know how politics work, or you blinding yourself to obvious truths.
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Can the Clinton campaign take the heat?
I have felt sad and discouraged by Hillary Clinton's wins in Texas, Rhode Island and Ohio, and it tells me that "dropping the fear bomb," (as Michelle Obama calls it) works! How sad that the predominant American culture is so emotionally reactive and unable to think critically that they respond positively to such a primitive and irrational emotional appeal.
Perhaps we do not deserve to have an enlightened and thoughtful candidate like Barack Obama. He refuses to get into the emotional gutter--and may therefore lose the nomination.
The RollingStone endorsement of Obama this morning says it all for me:
"There is a sense of dignity, even majesty, about him, and underneath that ease lies a resolute discipline," Jann S. Werner writes. "It's not just that he is eloquent -- with that ability to speak both to you and to speak for you -- it's that he has a quality of thinking and intellectual and emotional honesty that is extraordinary."
Maybe too extraordinary!!!
Kate Madison
Depoe Bay, OR
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Koppelmann, what is the matter with you?
I really do not understand these last few posts. Do you really not remember what has been going on since September of last year?
Let's review. September, 2007, Clinton is way ahead in the polls and Obama and Edwards go negative on her, thereby 1) abandoning the theme they were both emphasizing of unity and positivity. When Clinton pointed out the contradiction, Obama and Edwards were indignant; how dare her, they were just pointing out differences. 2) it worked and Obama closed in on Clinton.
Clinton, as a matter of self-defense, went negative on Obama. Obama's campaign howled in protest about how she had taken this positive campaign negative.
While he is ahead, Obama is content to complain about Clinton going negative and letting the press do most of his dirty work. (Although he his campaign has been anything but positive.)
Clinton wins Texas, Ohio, and RI, even though Obama out spent her 2 or 3 to 1. Obama openly proclaims that he is going negative. Clinton's campaign does a collective "Obama" and points out his attacks are not addressing the issues, like HE said everyone should be doing just a few days ago.
...and you some how think this is a problem with the Clinton campaign????? Man, shades of Tim Grieve.
P.S. I like the new spell checking, but you might add Obama to the dictionary.