Letters to the Editor
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Sweet Jesus, this guy is a piece of work...
"The Resiliency of Sen. Obama's Coalition Will Be Tested; Hillary's Coalition Is Stronger. The grind of a general election will erase the freshness and excitement of the primary season and the success that Sen. Obama has earned in states he has little chance of winning in November will erode. It may even crumble."
This is PRECISELY what disgusts me about the current Party Apparatus. Do they honestly think that having record turnout of people at primaries and caucuses, waiting in the snow (like we did in Maine), dealing with massive levels of disorganization, and all the while, voting decisively for an insurgent candidate, DOESN'T MEAN A GODDAMNED THING???
I have never been a registered Democrat up until yesterday. I have never participated in anything political. Why? Both parties are corrupt, bloated, tired, and frankly, becoming a danger to the integrity of this country. But Ron Paul has no chance of getting anywhere in the GOP, and frankly, I would still like some government services at the end of the day.
Let's put aside the specific candidates for a minute - I am part of the party to crash it, pure and simple. I am an insurgent. I am sending a message to my state and my country that I have had it. It didn't have to be Hillary and Barack. It could have been any Establishment Candidate versus Someone New (provided that the New One had half a brain and a cohesive campaign).
So yes - I want to take this piece of crap we call the Democratic Party down, surrogate by surrogate, apparatchik by apparatchik, until what is left actually has some purpose and meaning. And if my local Dems at the state level think they are getting off easy, I plan to do the same thing. And I have a lot of friends this year.
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Wow -- what empty propaganda
I searched in vain for actual ARGUMENTS in Mark Penn's text... None to be found. Just hyperbole about how super-groovy Clinton is.
I doubt voters will fall for it.
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The Other Guy
Ms. Inevitable. 100% name recognition, not just in the United States, but the WORLD. Senator from New York. Former First Lady of the United States. The fattest rolodex in the Democratic Party. Married to the most popular former Democratic president since Kennedy. Record-shattering fundraising a year before the first primary, and millions in her own funds.... And yet, in spite of her "35 years of experience," she gets stymied by a "young," "inexperienced," "shucking and jiving," "Jesse Jackson."
Must be infuriating. But if she wants to run the country like she's run her campaign, we're better off with The Other Guy.
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@ h_lance
It's Democratic, please. Using DemocRAT plays into the republican sound machine.
Also, don't forget that W and his gang used constant Terror Alerts in the run-up to the 2004 election. How many have we had since then?
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@Chrislrob
"you are scared shitless. Bwahahahahahaha."
THAT's what I call uplifting. Gotta love the Obamabots. Pretend to speak for unity, but then go
Bwahahahahahaha
The hypocrisy. It burns....
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Cythera above
Yeah, but then you turn around and are equally if not more rude.
Plus, whoever that person was, he's hardly a representative of how most Obama supporters (not "Obamabots") behave around here.
When somebody behaves a certain way, and then turns around and attacks others as if they are the ones solely behaving that way, there's something inherently dishonest at work.
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So much for being "post-partisans"
The Obama supporters posting here and elsewhere are not doing a very convincing job of practicing the "post-partisan" politics they think Obama is going to bring to the country. I think there is legitimate room for discussion about the relative merits of Hillary or Barack vs. McCain without all of nasty slinging of insults against commenters with whom you disagree. Or else "post-partisan" just becomes another empty election slogan like "compassionate conservative" or "kinder and gentler".
Personally, I think both Clinton and Obama will have a tough time jamming the Republican slime machine once it starts. Hillary has to look strong without becoming completely unlikeable; Barack has to overcome his exoticism and lack of military credentials. It's going to be an interesting year.
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Micki - you're confusing votes with delegates
All those BANNER HEADLINES about his huge wins are an illusion -- yes, he garnered the most "votes" in certain caucus states, but in my state -- Washington -- fewer than 50,000 people participated in Saturday's caucus for BOTH PARTIES combined. THAT IS LESS THAN 1.3% of Washington State voters!
I assume that you're referring to the counts on websites that say Obama has 21,629 and Clinton has 9,992.
Those aren't the number of people who voted. Those are the number of state delegates awarded. I know my district caucus had about 90 votes for Obama, 6 of which are going to represent him. That's a 15-1 ratio.
I don't know if that's average or not, but those totals are not the number of voters.
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Xrandadu no need to apologize for me.
Diptheria doesn't deserve your soothing words. Go back and look at some of its posts. I was responding to its glee at the prospect of Obama getting the Democratic nomination and being crushed by the Republicans in the general election.
Doesn't that sound like a Republican plant to you?
You would have seen it more clearly if it hadn't conveniently cut out the few lines where I make clear that I don't think it's an HRC supporter AT ALL.
Diptheria45 wrote:
"'The guy's right and it will be sheer joy watching him proven right. Obama has Kerry's glass jaw combined with Al Gore's nose-in-the-air elitism. The Rovian minions will bring him down as easily as Cheney bags ducks.'
My response:
You Rovian minions are so full of yourselves. But you're wrong about the Democrats this time. We're going to fight it out, figure it out, and then kick your asses.
And you are scared shitless.
Bwahahahahahaha"
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Obama supporters keep providing extensive reasons why he should be supported
Including all the many reasons why he is stronger than Clinton against McCain. In response the Clinton supporters come up with a version of:
"It's her turn."
"She's a woman, you misogynist! You must vote for her if you don't hate women!"
"If Obama wins, we're taking our marbles and going home."
"She's the wife of a president!"
Yes, all persuasive arguments.