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Friday, November 6, 2009 12:00 AM

"Fox and Friends" suggests screening Muslim soldiers

Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"

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Friday, November 6, 2009 01:53 PM

Chrisitian right a a bigger threat

The biggest threat to our Democracy are the right wing "Christain Warriors ".

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:01 PM

Fortunately the US Military is not going to take FOX Noise's suggestion of racial profiling

And one would think FOX Noise, with their shoddy record of cultural sensitivity, would want to back off racially inflammatory remarks.

Fox Noise has no shame as to the levels they will sink to please their increasingly extremist viewership.

As serviceman I am sadden at the lost of 13 of fellow coworkers, but I am about to become suspicious of the Muslims I have been working with for years.

I am not about to put an entire race and/or religion on trial because of one nut job.

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:03 PM

Minor correction to last letter

As serviceman I am sadden at the lost of 13 of my fellow coworkers, but I am NOT about to become suspicious of the Muslims I have been working with for years.

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:06 PM

re: screening muslim soldiers

Not sure what a "Christain soldier" is but the biggest threat

to democracy in this country is socialism.

Also, Muslims are not a race. It's a religion that touts itself

as the religion of peace.

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:16 PM

@taxpayer

Well, since no one is actually proposing anything remotely resembling socialism we'll obviously be fine.

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:19 PM

Two things...

1) @ taxpayer: If you think America is going to become a socialist country any time soon, you should go sit at the kiddie table and leave discussions about important issues to adults. Don't get up until you finish your lima beans.

2) It's nice to know that the goodly concerned White Wingers in America are concerned about what muslims in our military might do. It's not like any other products of our military might do something like rent a truck, pack it with explosives, and blow up an office building.

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:19 PM

@taxpayer - and one more thing! :-)

"It's a religion that touts itself as the religion of peace."

Don't they all?

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:21 PM

So we have a new piece of the Fox news calculus, thanks to Geraldo

(Hatred and suspicion of Muslims) > (Nobody should ever criticize the U.S. military)

Good to know if I'm ever in an argument.

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:21 PM

Geraldo Rivera

That noted authority on... what? Perpetuating his TV career? It's all just people who don't know anything talking about whatever. Why does anyone even watch?

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:23 PM

Well since we are going down the "profiling" path

We should have special screenings for white teachers and coaches since they have a greater incidence of committing sexual assault against kids. And so it goes...

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:24 PM

re: don't they all

The greatest detriment to this world let alone America is organized religion. Obviously everyone should be screened who

claims to be of a particular religion.

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:26 PM

New Bumper Sticker

Order online today at Fox News:

"Support the (white Christian) Troops"

I suppose I could say they should be ashamed of themselves, but I would also suppose that ship sailed long ago.

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:33 PM

What else is new

What do you expect from the BIGOTS at FOX. They have to feed their raging, mindless audeience.

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:38 PM

religion = ideology = something to be screened

I am so sick and tired of this spineless, empty-headed deference to religion. OK, yes the Fox crowd are stinking hypocrites because they are not interested in screening conservative Christians or other non-Muslim fundamentalists, but the real issue is whether religion can be a factor in disloyal and violent actions. This was not the first case of a Muslim-American violently turning on his fellow soldiers (and yes religious solidarity was invoked in at least one of the incidents involving a grenade attack) or to use an example more to the liking of the usual Salonista, consider the Jewish-Americans caught spying for Israel.

No one would question screening white supremacists for example from the military and most liberals would be rightly upset if they were not so scrutinised. But religion, the one ideology that not only justifies murdering people but says god wants you to do it, suddenly the same 'liberals' can't evince enough PC outrage at the notion of screenings. Unless you manufacture some versions of the Torah/Tanakh, Bible and/or Qur'an which don't call for or glorify senseless violence against people, the burden of proof is on avowed believers to prove that they are in effect hypocrites who don't follow their own blood-stained holy book.

I realise that is demanding too much intellectual and moral consistency of people and that the preferred method is to sweep these issues under the rug in the name of 'tolerance,' hoping they don't explode like yesterday.

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:44 PM

Fox and Friends are a bunch of amateurs, BUT...

...the point they raise about considering "special debriefings" with Muslim soldiers is valid. By that, I mean it warrants an open and honest discussion. This isn't the first time this has happened in the U.S. military in recent years. Anybody remember Sgt. Akbar from 2003?

www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/national/12akbar.html

Look, I realize this is rare but it deserves special attention. Dismissing it as "racial profiling" or being "anti-muslim" is narrow minded and naive. It's really sad that so much death and violence usually follows the announcement, "Allahu Akbar!"

I'm an atheist so I'm not too fond of Christianity either (or any religion for that matter) but Christian Fundamentalism doesn't even come close to the level of violence found with Islamic Fundamentalism. Just ask any Danish cartoonist or Salman Rushdie. Or the family of Theo van Gogh. Or the homosexuals publicly hanged in Iran. Or the female victims of "honor" killings. Or... you get my point.

I hope that those injured in this massacre go on to a full recovery. And what can one say to those who lost a loved one? Jeez, what a tragedy.

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:48 PM

RE: Ms. Anthropia

I just read your comments after submitting my post. We're are clearly on the same page.

Friday, November 6, 2009 02:58 PM

@Ms. Anthropia

"No one would question screening white supremacists for example from the military and most liberals would be rightly upset if they were not so scrutinised."

Yeah. About that... The US military sort of stopped screening out white supremacists when they needed higher recruitment numbers.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/06/15/neo_nazis_army/index.html

Friday, November 6, 2009 03:07 PM

let's count how many people try to disingenuously cast this as a racial issue.

Svutlov and notimpressed makes two so far.

I know this is really, really difficult for the orthodox liberal mind to grasp but religion is an ideology and thus a prime motivator in the behaviours and actions believers evince. Race/ethnicity in complete contrast is an inborn characteristics with no bearing on behaviour or specific actions.

Ideologies are voluntary and thus subject to scrutiny. The fact that racial profiling has an ugly and unjust history does not excuse giving people's beliefs a pass. Stop being intellectual cowards and using racism as a screen to deflect criticism from religion.

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