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Monday, November 2, 2009 12:00 AM

Biden, Palin reprise "drill, baby, drill" fight

A congressional race turns into a battleground for the two old rivals

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Monday, November 2, 2009 12:43 PM

Palin Hit Back?

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say "someone writing for Palin on FB?" You know damn well she didn't write it herself. Anyone who quotes Mann Coulter is a moron (x2!) in my book. What a feather in Palin's cap if a rethug is elected in a district where a rethug has been elected for the last 152 years. Palin sure is gittin' all mavericky up there in NY's 23rd. You betcha. Also. Too. Wink, wink.

What a twunt!

Monday, November 2, 2009 12:46 PM

Clever little conservative

Ohhh, that Sandra Palin, what a wit.

Monday, November 2, 2009 12:57 PM

Biden should know better

than to pick a public fight with a retard.

Monday, November 2, 2009 01:07 PM

A congressional race turns into a battleground for the two year olds rivalry

FTFY!

Monday, November 2, 2009 01:08 PM

Palin has Democrats transfixed

Wow, it amazes me how much attention Palin gets from even high-level democrats. She really has a spell over them.

Monday, November 2, 2009 01:08 PM

Palin should know better

than to pick a public fight with a retard.

Then again, let the retards sort it out amongst themselves.

That includes any of you who take either party seriously.

Monday, November 2, 2009 01:23 PM

@ohiopolitico

It's pretty much an established strategy, and it's pretty smart. The Obama administration will go after any public figure with high negatives that they can associate with the Republican party at large. Palin is extremely popular with a decently large group of people, but she is despised by an even-larger group of people. The people who like Palin are not persuadable, and the White House doesn't care about trying to persuade them. On the other hand, the group of people who despise Palin might contain a number of moderates or undecided voters. By associating all Republicans with Palin, the White House encourages moderates and undecided voters to side with Democrats instead of Republicans. They did the same thing with Rush Limbaugh, and they're doing the same thing with Fox News.

Monday, November 2, 2009 01:26 PM

@ ohiopolitico

Wow, it amazes me how much attention Palin gets from even high-level democrats.

Well, when economic times are tough, people are often desperate for some laughs.

Monday, November 2, 2009 01:31 PM

A spell?

"...She really has a spell over them...."

Nah, more like watching a slow motion train or multiple car wreck. You're really glad you're not part of it, but there's some fascination with the idea that something that bizarre can actually happen.

Monday, November 2, 2009 02:36 PM

At this point

I hope Hoffman wins. It'd serve those 23rd district voters right. Be careful what you wish for.

Monday, November 2, 2009 02:38 PM

Palin snarked about Biden on Facebook

And she totally ripped him in the slam book!

Monday, November 2, 2009 03:33 PM

"Two old rivals"???

This article illustrates the crux of the Sarah Palin problem. The subheading for this article, ("A congressional race turns into a battleground for the two old rivals") suggests that Sarah Palin is a longtime, respected thinker on the level of a Joe Biden.

She's not. She's a nitwit newbie on the national political scene trying to throw her weight around. The problem is that she doesn't have any weight to throw around...political weight is earned over a long period of serious participation in serious debate of real issues. By being credible.

By responding to her, Joe Biden simply legitimatizes her noise making, and to some extent Alex Koppelman does the same.

She should simply be ignored. There is no reason on earth to lower oneself to her level of discourse, unless one's goal is to cheapen and diminish the entire debate.

Monday, November 2, 2009 04:41 PM

Palin - Biden

This is SUCH an uneven match...Palin is such a light weight with little or NO intellectual fire power to bring to the table....not even a contest....SO her staff has to say something back on Facebook?? WHAT A JOKE YOU ARE SARAH....A JOKE!

Joe, next time this no-op raises her head about any issue, just slap it and move along..no loss to anyone.....nothing to see here...

Monday, November 2, 2009 06:24 PM

Joe's weak hand

Here is Joe's argument in a nutshell:

"Gas prices are high. Palin wants to drill for more oil domestically. Not us. We have a 20 year windmill plan to achieve 2% of that result."

Memo to Axelrod: get Joe better talking points. And don't match him up against Sarah again.

To paraphrase George Bush Sr., Sarah kicked a little ass today. It was a mismatch, given the hand Joe had to play.

Monday, November 2, 2009 07:26 PM

Joe's BO Says It Ain't So

Bo Biden, Bo Biden

Scope of drillin' - won't widen'

Bo Biden, Bo Biden

Oil near Brazil - no hidin'

Bo Biden, Bo Biden

With Big Al Gore - still sidin'

Biden Bo, Biden Bo

Where's the stimulus for Old Joe?

Monday, November 2, 2009 08:51 PM

ReaderReader

Here is Joe's argument in a nutshell:

OK, stop right there and please answer me this question: When the time comes, as it has now, where in order to make Palin not seem like a complete imbecile, you need to create imaginary dialogue either from her or her opponents, does it ever once cross your mind "Gosh, if she were as smart as I like to pretend, I wouldn't have to do this?"

To paraphrase George Bush Sr., Sarah kicked a little ass today. It was a mismatch, given the hand Joe had to play.

Just so we're clear, the "hand Joe had to play" is the claim that energy policy involves more complicated issues than simply "drill, baby, drill." You apparently disagree, believing that the entire national energy policy can be expressed strictly by those 3 words.

This brings up a follow-up question. I know you're fairly intelligent, and you consider yourself so. When you have to pretend that an obvious ignoramus like Palin understands something as complex as energy policy, and when you have to hold up something like "drill, baby, drill" as an example of her understanding, does it ever make you feel personally embarrassed?

One more: given the fact that people who feel like you do about Palin are in a slender minority, whereas those of us who rightly see her as dumb as a piece of wood are in the majority and will thus prevent her from ever holding national office, does that play into your Palin-centric worldview at all? Or do you just pretend it isn't so?

Monday, November 2, 2009 09:19 PM

@paulpsd7

You are mistaken.

Joe Biden claims that energy is "more complicated" than drill, baby, drill.

However, his position is not complicated. It is simple. He is 100% opposed to new domestic drilling, whether in Alaska or off shore. He is 100% opposed to nuclear power.

He favors windmills, which were fashionable back in January when oil was at $45. Now it's back to $80, and we still have no new energy production. Doh!

As for smarts, I can't judge Gov. Palin's thought process because I can't see it happen. I can only judge the results. Her policies and preferences are exceptionally smart.

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