a remarkable case of projection.

From a sociological standpoint I am completely fascinated that this is even allowed to occur without swift and radical correction of some sort.

Well, they're certainly not succeeding. The dumbest people I know self-identify as conservatives/Republicans.

If it weren't for all these dumb folks, Beck wouldn't have a job. So what's he whining about?

Beck is a well-known past pothead. A taste he had already developed by the first Clinton administration!

..it always seems like he's just one huge nervous breakdown waiting to happen.

First--and I can't believe I'm actually responding to one of his rants that only serves to prove how ill-educated he is--many of the founding fathers, as you point out, did just happen to be slave owners.

Second, the progressives of that day would be the abolitionists and later, those in the suffrage movement. Not the slave owners.

What Mr. Beck was referring to was so called Fairness Doctrine and Net Neutrality. If you didn't know this you didn't stay to get the context of what he was talking about. This is one of the reasons I enjoy Camille Paglia, though I disagree with her about some things she is at least intellectually honest.

When a drunk gets sober?

Than this delusion that the founders were white winged angels.

It was not liberals who fought against freeing the slaves, it was liberals who fought for them. Conservatives dug in their heals.

It was not liberals who fought against worker's rights to organize and have decent wages, it was liberals who fought for them. Conservatives dug in their heals.

It was not liberals who fought against women's rights to birth control and the vote, it was liberals who fought for them. Conservatives dug in their heals.

It was not liberals who fought against child labor, it was liberals who fought for them. Conservatives dug in their heals.

It was not liberals who fought against segregation, it was liberals who fought for them. Conservatives dug in their heals.

etc. etc. etc. etc.

Fortunately liberals have won the big fights in history, otherwise I imagine conservatives would still be fighting to keep us in caves.

I do not believe I have ever seen a single man more capable of twisting history to meet his needs than Glenn Beck.

what does what he says have anything to do with the fairness doctrine and net neutrality?

No, it's not what happens when an addict gets sober...

It's what happens when an addict stops using their chemical of choice but never finds healing for the underlying psychological issues that drove them to use those chemicals addictively in the first place.

Addiction, although it creates problems of its own, is usually a symptom of an different underlying problem.

By the way, being a "dry drunk" himself, I can't help but wonder if GWB isn't a devoted Becky fan.

Objectively speaking, Fox News viewers are more ignorant than others regarding objectively recognized facts. Funny how Beck decries ignorance, when ironically it's the cornerstone of his whole movement.

This and the Donohue op-ed make great companions. The take-away for me: if you want to be a republican these days, you need to dispense with facts and just shriek your frustration. What a perfect snapshot of an intellectually defunct movement!

He has got to be paying you, right?

A good liberal knows one is good and one is bad.

Faux News is not news?..........

As a progressive part of me loves the Glen Beck's, Sarah Palin's, Limbaugh's etc, they really show the wingnutts for what they are and yet....

The scare the hell out of me...

I fear that some nut listening to Beck will turn to violence.

Lets hope I am wrong.

“portraying their liberal enemies as heirs only to Hitler and Stalin.”

Hitler and Stalin? Isn’t that sort of damning Liberals with faint praise? Those guys are pikers compared to Anita Dunn’s favorite, the Butcher of Beijing, the Communist Kuller, the Genocida of China, Mao Tse Tung! Combined, Hitler and Stalin only killed maybe 35 million. Mao killed 80 million!

Surely Beck can do better.

Is that the further back in time you go, the better things were.........Someone build a time machine and let's ship 'em to whenever they want to go.

1) By definition, wouldn't the conservatives be the ones who supported slavery and progressives the ones who fought to end it?

2) Can we stop with the Founding Father worship? Seriously. They were smart men with some great ideas, but they were human. Pulling out a quote from them does not automatically validate your bullshit opinion and end the arguement. They weren't always right, and I submit that (gasp) they even made some key errors when founding this nation. It was the best idea of it's time, but times have changed and the rest of the developed world is passing us by while we cling to an outdated philosophy like it's religion.

3) Glenn Beck. I can't help but think that he's fucking with us! Does he really believe this shit, or is he just good at exploiting the ignorance of his fans?

...people listen to this cat. I don't get it. I really, really don't get it. I have a friend, a smart woman, a businesswoman, young and educated, who lives here in Seattle and she not only thinks Beck is a brilliant patriot but went to his "Glenn Beck Day" up in Mount Vernon, WA.

The word that comes to mind is doublethink. I know several well-educated, otherwise extremely bright people who at the mention of Glenn Beck or Michelle Malkin become slavering trolls. Maybe functional MRIs are in order to see what's going on in their brains. I'm actually sort of serious. It would be interesting to see what sort of tribal aspect of the amygdala is lighting up that short circuits the reason of such folks.

Paying attention to Beck is only feeding his bank account.

Let's move on.

My favorite line is this one: "So, what does it mean? Well, I think it means this: Keep you dumb. Take away the media."

Certainly, if you define media to include any vehicle that conveys any thought or utterance or expression, then taking the media away would strike a grievous blow to education & enlightenment. But when you consider what's on TV (without even counting the Fox folks), it's a little hard to argue that knowledge is what gets transmitted -- certainty & a feeling that one is knowledgeable, perhaps, but knowledge in the sense that we're talking about descriptions of reality? Of the known universe?