I am not a republican, right winger or conservative. You are.

Nixon would have been too liberal for the Democratic party today.

I am a left wing socialist with libertarian views on persona rights, i consider the money system to be a tool of enslavement and I believe that we generate enough wealth at the labor of less than ten percent of the population in order to give everyone a standard of living within the range of what we would consider middle class if we just stopped spending resources time and effort on wars, scams, cheats and serving the system's needs rather than those of people.

I think both parties are composed of ignorant savages who only value money and hierarchy.

I hope that this gives you some small indication of how WRONG you can be about things. I am the least of your misconceptions, but, yours conform with the MSM delusions so your are a pretty regular guy!

Put her there PAL!

/extends hand in gesture of solidarity with a fellow domesticated ape who thinks he is pretty damn smart.

I want the same things you do, I just don't believe the democrats or the republicans or the MSM has any interest in giving the public an even break. I just don't understand how anyone can trust any of them? What do you guys get out of supporting the rulers? They don't care about you.

..."You are not skeptics. You are true believers."

Why on earth should anyone be skeptical about a document that has been verified by the state of Hawaii as authentic? A document that has been used by President Obama throughout his life for all the stuff every other citizens need it for?

Hilarious that you expect us to doubt it because a handful of folks who thoroughly detest Barack Obama choose to doubt it -- and then offer no evidence, only insinuations and iffy "facts."

"A document that has been used by President Obama throughout his life for all the stuff every other citizens need it for?"

GREAT!

Show us that one. Not the one that was printed out in 2007.

SLAM.

DUNK.

BUZZER.

SILENCE.

The home team fans are aghast, jaws dropped, eyes glazed over.

One shouts "KILL HIM!"

you know the rest of the story . . .

Re: “covering the songs”

Yeah, seems they were even using Frank Luntz euphemisms back in the ‘50’s.

Translation from Luntzism: “Ripping Off”

“What better spokesman for those white men who still yearn for the days when Pat Boone was able to prevent blacks from taking the national stage and destroying America.”

Precisely. Please read my previous post:

http://letters.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/06/29/boone_birther/permalink/a6d1cb10e1f47ef7b26b9b0f810f6d63.html

SLAM.

DUNK.

BUZZER.

SILENCE.

The home team fans are aghast, jaws dropped, eyes glazed over.

No, we're astonished that you think you just won a football game with at at-the-buzzer basket.

...that Obama started this controversy.

Yep, he did it.

By keeping these loons busy with this conspiracy, they don't have time to go batshit crazy and shoot cops because he personally sent them to take the nut's guns away or doctors or even their religious wackjob friends.

Hell, if I could keep some of these assholes busy NOT killing someone simply by starting some crap about where I was born, I'd tell them that I was born in a mud hut right outside a Jersey landfill, instead of Kenya, where all of us liberals were really born. The fact that my grandfather spoke Russian and Slovak means nothing to a good conspiracist.

if you were ever foolish enough to go on his show.

Someone ventured they would like to see me go on the show and use those techniques.

Can you imagine what I could do to him on camera?

I would core him so many new ones in such a short time and do it so continuously that he would have no usable video footage at all. And I would bring a loofah too.

You guys have really been fun, but the rendering is done.

And so is this thread.

Without me.

Fan club.

YAWN.

stinky, stinky, stinky,

Once again, is the Department of Health in Hawai'i in on the conspiracy? Unlike you, they claim the document is legit. And unlike you, they actually would know.

I traveled out of the country last year. Since the last time I had left the country prior to this trip, my passport had expired. I, therefore, had to apply for another one. It required a COPY of my birth certificate. Not the real birth certificate, rather a copy. Since I had long ago misplaced another copy I had of my birth certificate, I went to the State Department of Health in Oklahoma City and was issued a NEW copy. It is now clearly marked with the date March 5. 2008.

MY GOD--it must be a forgery since it is was issued in 2008 and not in the year I was born. OH MY GOD. OH MY GOD. I must have actually been born in another country.

Stinky sez "My dear kristinp, 'A document that has been used by President Obama throughout his life for all the stuff every other citizens need it for?' GREAT! Show us that one. Not the one that was printed out in 2007. SLAM. DUNK. BUZZER. SILENCE."

So that's your answer?

A couple of years ago, anticipating a move to another state, I looked for my 1946 birth certificate -- the old-fashioned kind -- and couldn't find it.

So I sent off to the county in Texas I was born in for another one.

When I received it, I thought there was a huge mistake, It was green and fake-looking. So I went online, and sure enough, that's what the the state of Texas was giving out, same as the state of Hawaii.

Guess what -- my new one works just like the old one did. So, slam dunk buzzer silence to you, too, fella.

Once again, is the Department of Health in Hawai'i in on the conspiracy? Unlike you, they claim the document is legit. And unlike you, they actually would know.

Sitka, you've run into the Stinky Conundrum. He won't come out and say "Yes, I think the Dept of Health in Hawaii is in on the conspiracy." Nor will he state that the 2 publications from 1961 are part of the conspiracy either. However, his conspiracy theory suggests precisely that. Stinks loves conspiracies (to put it mildly), but quite often he runs into this situation, where believing in the conspiracy also requires him to believe in things that are pretty tough to swallow, even for Stinks. To counteract that, he will never address the Dept of Hawaii or the ads in the newspaper (among the many other holes in his story), and voila, suddenly the conspiracy looks a whole lot more believable.

Trying to reason with a person like this is a non-starter. I suggest ridicule.