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Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:00 AM

Cheney now vs. Cheney then

The former vice president has apparently revised his views about the importance of the federal deficit.

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Wednesday, April 22, 2009 08:47 AM

GOP motto

the ends justify the means, especially if the ends screw everyone but our friends

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 08:48 AM

yeah, yeah

We get it. GOP bad. They're hypocrites to the core - political opportunists with zero scruples and even fewer principles. There's no road too low for them to take in the service of the larger goal of frightening the people in submission while reinforcing the rule of the oligarch. They're sociopathic sadists with no morality or conscience. We get it.

Now, how are the Democrats these days any better?

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 08:49 AM

Consistency

Consistency is not a strong point of the opportunistic psychopathic fascist.

Apparently you are unaquainted with Mr. Cheney.

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 08:50 AM

Cheney citing Reagan

I've always felt Cheney was being taken out of context with this quote.

It rings in my mind as intending to say "Reagan proved deficits don't matter in getting elected and keeping power."

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 08:52 AM

My dear xxysyndrome ,

"Now, how are the Democrats these days any better?"

They expect you to be appreciative and thankful for their efforts on your behalf, whereas Republicans don't give a crap what you think.

That's much better.

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 08:57 AM

Pull the Plug!!!

(That's the new stop the presses.)

Waitaminnit ... a Republican says one thing at one time in defense of policy he favors and then says an apparently opposite thing another time when it involves policy he doesn't? WOW!

Future posts will break the news that the sun rises in the east, the earth is round and water runs downhill.

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 09:05 AM

@Michael R, Portland

Reagan is their Che. He means nothing, and therefore anything they want him to, depending on how they feel like wearing him.

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 09:05 AM

Enough of this

I realize that Cheney is still a presence on right wing media, but can the rest of us just ignore him now? We've had to see enough of him over the past 8 years, we already know that he will say whatever suits his agenda at that moment and that he will always choose the most least constructive solution. Let him fade into history now that he doesn't matter anymore.

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 09:15 AM

some claim

...that Cheney changed in the decade in which he was out of power - they wonder if he had a stroke or if his heart meds have messed with him.

I think it's obvious that he is a miracle of modern medicine in that he constantly talks out of his ass.

surely there's some corrective for this, too?

maybe jail time?

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 09:28 AM

Not the first time

Dick Chenney has actually lost his mind. He lost it long ago, as demonstrated in this clip by The Young Turks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7kkx9domJo

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 09:28 AM

@Michael R, Portland is correct

As unappetizing as it is to "defend" Cheney -- whose departure from this Earth would greatly improve it, all things considered -- he was clearly talking about the political implications of running a massive deficit in the earlier quotation. He believed Reagan had proved such deficits don't automatically doom a politician; his harsh new criticism of current and future deficits may or may not be valid, but it's probably quite insincere. If he thought deficits WERE that bad for our country, his earlier silence on this issue wipes away his credibility now.

Sad that Cheney hasn't adopted the "gentleman's agreement" of all former Presidents, who refrain from such bald and bilious attacks on their successors, at least for the first few years. I mean, he quite evidently considered himself essentially a "co-President" for all intents during his 8 years as veep -- he could learn something from his partner in malfeasance, George W. Bush, who has the grace to keep his trap shut for now.

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 09:43 AM

According to Paul O'Neill

But there is no record of Cheney actually saying this. In contrast, we have Robert Gibbs' actual words:

Q You were talking about an appropriations bill a few weeks ago -- that at $8 billion -- being minuscule; a billion in earmarks. We were talking about that and you said that that --

MR. GIBBS: Well, in terms of --

Q A hundred million is a lot, but $8 billion is small?

Gibbs got caught trying to make the Messiah's alleged $100 million in budget cuts sound significant just a few weeks after claiming that $8 billion in earmarks was miniscule.

As far as revised views, where are all the liberals who complained about Bush's relatively small deficits now that the Messiah has proposed trillion-dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see?

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 09:47 AM

Nice...

Cheney, whose administration oversaw a massive expansion of the federal government and who was the chief architect of a $2 trillion, useless war (paid for on credit, of course) lectures us about the virtues of frugality and fiscal prudence.

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 09:48 AM

apples vs hand grenades

Cheney defended deficits at a time when the democrats were crying about how we had surpluses in the 90s. We went into a recession following 9/11 so the government was certainly going to be operating in the red no matter who was president. In his comment, he was saying that a couple hundred billion spent to promote economic growth and keep the country safe was worth it and wouldn't bankrupt the nation. How on earth can you equate that with the trillion-dollar-per-year spending orgy that we have embarked on now?

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 09:49 AM

It's hard to stop an attack dog..

..from doing what he was trained to do. Only way you can remedy the behavior at this point is to put the animal down.

What is with the Cheney media tour? Does he have a book to sell? Is he just bored with being a multi-millionaire?

An earlier poster suggested that, for one reason or another, Cheney seems to be slowly going insane. I think they're right. Reagan at least had the good graces to do it in private, but Cheney's "friends" in the broadcast community seem all too eager to ride this ratings bonanza into the ground.

At long last Mr. Hannity, do you have any shame?

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 09:57 AM

The media enablers

The media is giving Cheney so much play as if he really has anything relevant to say after the last eight years. It's so transparent what the GOP is up to! The Republicans are still following their plan we saw put into play during the entirety of the Bush regime...keep repeating sound bites over and over again until the public gets hypnotized and accepts the screed as fact. Unfortunately, the media is dutifully falling into line repeating their drone. What enablers!

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