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Monday, April 20, 2009 12:00 AM

Obama speaks to the CIA

The president worked to reassure any staffers worried about what his release of the OLC torture memos means for them.

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Monday, April 20, 2009 02:27 PM

"Does this mean we can't slam people's heads against walls anymore?"

"Sorry, son. You'll have to avoid kicking them repeatedly in the legs until their blood clots cause aneurisms as well."

Monday, April 20, 2009 02:30 PM

My letter to the White House via their non-working "Contact Form"

I am furious at the reports of your spokesman Mr Gibbs saying that you will not prosecute torture violations.

I sent this around widely today:

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Mr. Bybee;

You should be fired from UNLV, impeached by Congress, indicted for conspiracy involving war crimes, disbarred, and imprisoned. I now have a copy of your 8-1-02 memo. Notwithstanding the numerous redactions, it comprises dispositive evidence of your criminality. You were a willful, thoroughly knowledgeable, and enthusiastic advocate for the kinds of rank barbarism we decry in our enemies. And, "high value" exemplar detainees such as Abu Zubaydah and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed are really just red herrings; the larger problem is that we have quite likely applied these criminal techniques against numerous nameless others, most of them likely innocent and in possession of no useful intelligence information. Your actions have contributed to the deaths and maimings of many more U.S. troops, put any subsequent American military captives at severely heightened risk of torture, and have significantly sullied our international reputation. You should be held to account. I will tirelessly do my part to see that such will be the case.

cc: Senators Reid, & Ensign, Representative Dina Titus, US DOJ

cc: Senator John McCain, Fax 202-228-2862

Begin forwarded message:

From: Robert Gladd

Date: April 19, 2009 12:31:50 PM PDT

To: john.white@unlv.edu

Cc: brian@lasvegassun.com, Christy Hardin Smith , jwalsh@salon.com

Subject: This man is unfit to practice, much less teach law -- or to serve on the bench

The Torturers’ Manifesto

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/19/opinion/19sun1.html?_r=1

"...In one of the more nauseating passages, Jay Bybee, then an assistant attorney general and now a federal judge, wrote admiringly about a contraption for waterboarding that would lurch a prisoner upright if he stopped breathing while water was poured over his face. He praised the Central Intelligence Agency for having doctors ready to perform an emergency tracheotomy if necessary.

These memos are not an honest attempt to set the legal limits on interrogations, which was the authors’ statutory obligation. They were written to provide legal immunity for acts that are clearly illegal, immoral and a violation of this country’s most basic values..."

"...These memos make it clear that Mr. Bybee is unfit for a job that requires legal judgment and a respect for the Constitution. Congress should impeach him. And if the administration will not conduct a thorough investigation of these issues, then Congress has a constitutional duty to hold the executive branch accountable..."

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Jay Bybee is documentably complicit in war crimes. He should not only be impeached, in a morally coherent world, he would be indicted. It sickens me to see his name associated with my university.

Robert Gladd UNLV alumnus, Institute for Ethics & Policy Studies, 1998, www.bgladd.com

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Should you decide to not investigate allegations of war crimes committed by the Bush administration, I will work for your defeat in the next election. I served as a precinct captain for the President in 2008, and my wife and I contributed far more money than ever before (despite both having been laid off). I now am started to feel thoroughly betrayed. You almost lost me at FISA last year. Should you cave on torture investigation and prosecution, you will indeed have lost me. Don't think you can just keep taking us for granted because we "have nowhere else to turn."

Do the morally right thing.

Monday, April 20, 2009 02:31 PM

Hear your own words....

"What makes the United States special and what makes you special is precisely the fact that we are willing to uphold our values and our ideals even when it's hard, not just when it's easy; even when we are afraid and under threat, not just when it's expedient to do so. That's what makes us different."

That's right, Mr. President, and our values have never, ever included torture. Our "values" are codified in our laws and our Constitution, which you have taken an oath to defend, serve and protect. Do your job. Now, when it's hard, not just when it's easy ... That's what makes us different.

Monday, April 20, 2009 02:36 PM

Interesting that he came directly to the CIA

Wow, it's pretty interesting to see a president kiss the a@! of an agency that's supposedly working for him. "It wasn't my fault," the President says, "I was forced to release those memos--but between you and me, I know what you're going through (I watch cable) and I'm on your side." With Bush you always knew he was lying or just plain stupid, but one never doubted what side he was on. With Obama, he lies even with his lying--I never seen a president sell out his base more quickly and openly, AND with as much contempt for anybody who might try to call him on it. He reminds me of a professor who wears smooth suits and employs smoother diction to exaggerate his status as a know-it-all, only to be outed as a plagiarizer and an impostor by amateur scholars who actually check his claims. Obama's not the hope or intellect he's made out to be--he's an ambitious fake as anybody without stars in their eyes knew over a year ago. To see him grovel before his would-be assassins is a fitting testament to his lack of quality as a man.

Monday, April 20, 2009 02:39 PM

Quick translation:

Guys, the cat is out of the bag. I'm not going to do anything about it so PLEASE don't assassinate or overthrow me... Everything is going to be just like it was. Trust me... Really...

Monday, April 20, 2009 02:40 PM

How about...

If you weren't torturing people on behalf of the CIA and the United States, you have nothing to worry about.

If you were- and if we can prove it- then fuck you, you're going to jail.

Monday, April 20, 2009 02:52 PM

The New School

Laying down

The New

Golden Rule?

Monday, April 20, 2009 02:52 PM

Shouldn't the Original Story Read: "Obama Goes on Bended Knee to Future Killers"

Betcha the meeting wasn't like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx0t-pLLD2k

Monday, April 20, 2009 03:10 PM

A New Outfit for a New Emperor

"What makes the United States special and what makes you special is precisely the fact that we are willing to uphold our values and our ideals even when it's hard, not just when it's easy; even when we are afraid and under threat, not just when it's expedient to do so. That's what makes us different."

I guess the asterisk at the end of this paragraph was printed in white ink, as well as the explanatory footnote it marked:

*Except when we're required by law to prosecute members of our government who've arrogantly and contemptuously wiped their asses with our Constitution. When that happens we leap for the rulebook...and throw it away.

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