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Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:00 AM

On stimulus, Dems ready to go it alone

Top Senate Democrats say they've got the votes to pass the bill as early as Thursday night, and are dismissing GOP concerns.

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 06:16 PM

@IaintBacchus & persephone

Outstanding!

That about sums it up!

Thursday, February 5, 2009 06:01 PM

Stimulus

Schumer's wrong. Taxpayers Do care about the substance of the bill; it should create jobs and there should be an "expiration date" on it also.

Thursday, February 5, 2009 04:25 PM

Deficit spending

We are in this horrible mess because the last 8 years were an orgy of deficit spending on unnecessary wars and unprecedented corporate giveaways. The only way to reverse this Republican made catastrophe is to do massive deficit spending on the American people, yep, those so despised by the Republicans.

Thursday, February 5, 2009 03:47 PM

@IaintBacchus

AMEN!

My letter is going to post on a different page so I'll quote you:

Shut the FUCK up about deficit spending, asshole. For the last eight years you and every other wingnut, christofascist shithead in the country has been all for tax cuts that we couldn't afford and a war we didn't need and to hell with the cost. Well now it's time to spend some money on the American people instead of a religious crusade or a corporate giveaway and you can damn well keep your fucking mouth shut while the grownups fix your fucking mess. DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR, SHIT-FOR-BRAINS?

Thursday, February 5, 2009 03:39 PM

Ending Global Poverty

The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.

$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.

$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:59 PM

GOP propaganda

Republicans are complaining about the increased cost of the package, but it is their insistnece on a $15,000 house credit on taxes & car rebates that pushed have it up. IT IS NOT PROGRESS TO GIVE OUT CAR REBATES, IF CONSUMERS BUY GAS GUZZLERS WITH THE REBATE.

Giving money to the NEA will create jobs, as many in the museums and ohter creative fields have been layed off.

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:58 PM

OSAMA captured (on sitcom)

Osama bin Laden captured in gay twin brother sitcom... I kid you not... videos don't lie! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnu08-2tiw4

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:56 PM

@aleef69

Shut the FUCK up about deficit spending, asshole. For the last eight years you and every other wingnut, christofascist shithead in the country has been all for tax cuts that we couldn't afford and a war we didn't need and to hell with the cost. Well now it's time to spend some money on the American people instead of a religious crusade or a corporate giveaway and you can damn well keep your fucking mouth shut while the grownups fix your fucking mess. DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR, SHIT-FOR-BRAINS?

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:50 PM

We've heard this before

Harry Reid always takes the easy way out, he seems incapable of getting republicans on board. Of course these days the majority of repbulicans a right wing jerks.

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:48 PM

Pardon my French...

But what the FUCK is Townhall Magazine advertising on this website? Did somebody lose their goddamn mind?

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:44 PM

@-- lakejohnson

I agree with you completely but injecting money seems to be the only tool left. The Repubs aren't putting any alternatives forward, just engaging in a pissing contest on the details. Yes, this is a crap shoot.

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:34 PM

No I'm sure they'll cave

The Dems always do.

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:25 PM

Guess that answers it...

people aren't interested in discussing the merits of legislation, just playing party politics. I'm in neither party, but i guess i am one of the few who want to look at the issues instead of name-calling and attacking of motives. The last thing we need here is unquestioning support of anything: we should have learned by now that crisis legislation needs to be looked at even closer than normal legislation.

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:23 PM

@Philadelphia Steve and pubius maximus

Amen!

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:20 PM

Is there an echo?

Again with the "60 votes needed to pass" crapola. I hope I'm not sounding like a broken record on this folks, but it's important we at least get the basics right.

As another poster has -- finally -- noted, it's 51 votes that the Democrats need (actually, since Nelson has said he'll abstain, and Franken hasn't been seated yet, it's 49, with Biden casting the tie-breaker).

I can tell you that there are more than 3 Republican senators who will vote for cloture because if they don't they're dead meat in 2010. They can then vote against the bill itself if they want to keep their "fiscal conservative" bona fides, without having to wear the "obstructionist" tag to boot.

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:12 PM

Oh, for the love of God...

Even with a majority, a motivated President wielding the bully pulpit and popular will behind him, Harry Reid can't legislate his way out of a paper bag.

How long will we be saddled with this lugubrious, incompetent albatross?

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:09 PM

f**k the Republicans

I am not a Democrat and, while I recognize the obstacles facing Obama, question his choices of Clintonites and retreads in his Administration.

But one thing he should not tolerate is Republican obfuscation and obstruction. We don't have the time or stomach for it. It is growing clearer day by day that the Republicans could care less if the economy falls into depression or how much anyone suffers. All they want is power and the quickest way back is if things go in the dumpster fast.

I mean, come on people, can't you see this? I say f**k them. Just shove their asses out of the way. The sooner the better.

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:07 PM

Aside from a partisan thing...

why the assumption that injecting this huge mass of money (that we don't have) into the economy is going to be a good thing? Seems that most comments and articles on here focus on saying why Republicans are evil instead of debating the merits of something that is frankly a pretty big deal. Borrowing this amount of money at once is not a small thing.

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:04 PM

Go Ahead

If they've got the votes, I say go for it. The GOP vision of "bi-partisanship" has always been, and apparently still is, that the democrats concede everything while the Republicans yield nothing. A simple majority vote will suffice. Obama signs it. No veto proof majority required. On to the next thing! The Dems need to get it through their thick head that they are not "going it alone" as the headline on this post says. The electorate gave them the go ahead! We fuckin' cleaned house for them, now get the fuck to work!

Thursday, February 5, 2009 02:03 PM

They need 60 votes

“People don’t care about these little items. I think the Republicans are looking for an excuse not to vote for the bill.” --Schumer

Ok, let the Republicans filibuster and bring out every "little item" that Schumer is certain the American people don't care about. Then Schumer can explain why there are so many "little items" of little importance in a bill that according to Obama is supposed to head off an economic dooms day.

The democrats do not want a filibuster with this bill - it would be an embarassment. They need 60 votes.

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