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Monday, November 3, 2008 12:00 AM

In thanks to Hillary

Clinton made a historic run, sure, but she also made Obama a better candidate.

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Monday, November 3, 2008 07:23 AM

Please...

Can we start with the congratulations tomorrow night? I know, I know, it'll pretty much take an act of God for Obama to lose at this point but, seriously, can we just hold it in for 36 more hours?

Monday, November 3, 2008 07:28 AM

I've been thinking much the same

I was plenty irritated at some of the tactics and when she made the statement that she and McCain were ready to lead but not Obama, I wanted her thrown out of the party. (I was right, it was used in RNC ads; fortunately McCain's toxic VP choice limited the use of that quote.) And I kept sending money to make up for the funds I felt he should not have to be spending fighting another democrat.

Ultimately, however, it meant he actually campaigned in all 50 states in the primary, something no candidate of either party has ever done. That he did it because he had to is moot now. That face time, early on, as well as the early unpacking of all the rezko/muslim/wright/neophyte slurs has done a lot to make people comfortable with someone who really doesn't look and sound like everyone else.

Hopefully we can find a nice supreme court bench to thank her.

Monday, November 3, 2008 07:30 AM

An apology would have been nice

No, because a lot of what you wrote was just plain wrong. (Even now, you are accusing her of raising Wright, Ayers etc.)

But then I do not expect you to be MAN enough to apologize for your mistakes.

Monday, November 3, 2008 07:30 AM

Beautiful- and True

I have had the same thoughts about Senator Clinton, having stated many times over the past several weeks that she really gets it.

It had to have been tremendously difficult for her to run an effective campaign with all of the Democratic Party ghosts- including her husband- whispering in her ear , and giving her advice and direction about everything.

The fact is- she has emerged a stronger, more real and transformative person .

She cares about the country, the principles of the party and - all people.

Parenthetically, I also believe that Bill was doing what he thought was necessary in order to protect and reward his wife.

I forgive him. Now.But, I also hope he has learned something in the process.A bit of introspection is a good thing.

Gotta go and GOTV in Central PA!

Near York, pA...

banyantree

Monday, November 3, 2008 07:32 AM

Benchwarming?

Yes. I've long thought a Supreme Court bench seat would serve her well, a thumb in the eye of the RATS currently lolling about in there. Compared to Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and Scalia, a center-right Democrat like HR Clinton would be a flaming liberal on the badly-skewed Supreme Court. Although I'd like to think Obama would get to appoint some younger Supremes, too, to ensure a long, long tenure of non-reactionaries at the Supreme Court, HR Clinton would be a good choice.

Monday, November 3, 2008 07:36 AM

Obama has become...

...a much better speaker because of CLinton. I mean, he was always a strong speaker, but being forced to respond to her has made him hone his language in a way that better presents his message, without diluting it, making him more clear. Unlike this run on sentence.

Meffert - I think Sec. of State would be more appropriate for her skills and temperment. SCOTUS, not so much.

Monday, November 3, 2008 07:38 AM

The Campaign Wasn't the Problem - Clinton Herself Was!

Hillary and her henchmen and women ran a pretty good campaign; the core problem was Hillary Clinton's repulsive personality.

Monday, November 3, 2008 07:39 AM

Save the valedictories and congratulations for (hopefully) tomorrow

...at which point we can access the impact of the primaries, the Clinton candidacy, etc.

I swear to god, all you people assuming this thing's in the bag. Have you no historical perspective? Do you not comprehend the faith we're putting in untested polling models? Assumptions that certain groups will be turning out in a-historically high margins?

We're not there yet. Get to work.

Monday, November 3, 2008 07:41 AM

@ PierreSD

Make no mistake, if Obama loses, it won't be an act of God.

At this point all the McCain campaign can do is hope for a huge Bradley effect, wildly successful block-the-vote efforts or demonic intervention. I'd think that God wouldn't be involved in any of those.

(For whatever my opinion about that is worth, being a devout agnostic.)

Monday, November 3, 2008 07:42 AM

Supreme Court?

A Supreme Court spot for Hillary does sound like a tempting idea, however, I've heard her say in an interview just within the last couple of days that she has no interest in that.

Monday, November 3, 2008 07:42 AM

Not so fast

But with a Democrat just a day away from becoming the 44th president of the United States -- a position that Clinton almost surely would have found herself in today had she won the nomination

Sorry, I'm not necessarily buying that assertion. Despite the false charges that he's a muslim, Arab, radical, socialist, etc., Senator Obama's negatives among the electorate don't approach Senator Clinton's. She would have had a much tougher time winning over the voters, and had she been the nominee, I believe that McCain would be up in the polls right now, though it would be close.

Sure, Clinton may have won, but those of us pulling for the Democrats would be many times more nervous today with her as the candidate than we are with Obama. Obama was the right choice, because Obama was the better candidate. More experienced? No, that's not what I'm talking about. He's better at running for president than Clinton was, and in this election, that makes a world of difference.

Monday, November 3, 2008 07:46 AM

This would be much much closer if HRC had been the nominee

The RNC never figured out how to effectively tag Obama, and their desperation led to picking Sarah Palin for VP.

If HRC is the nominee I think you would have seen a different VP, a less effective counter-smear strategy, a weaker ground game and a much better chance of waking up Wednesday morning with president-elect McCain.

Monday, November 3, 2008 07:59 AM

Not a sure thing.

To say Hillary would be in Obama's enviable polling position had she won isn't necessarily a given. McCain's biggest blunder was selecting Palin as his VP- a choice made partly in response to the apparent Democratic angst over Hillary's loss.

A Clinton win could have resulted in a more competent GOP selection, and a tighter race.

Monday, November 3, 2008 07:59 AM

When, exactly...

...did Hillary raise Obama's Rev. Wright connections?

As far as I'm aware, she spoke of Wright only a couple of times when she was asked direct questions by reporters. She never "raised" the issue herself.

That's the only sense in which she could be said to have "helped make" the issue "stale by summer," and her contribution was far, far less than that of others.

"In Thanks to Hillary" my foot.

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