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Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:00 AM

Columnist: If you vote for Obama, you're going to hell

WorldNetDaily's Janet Porter says real Christians can't choose the Democratic ticket, and that God will punish those who do.

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Thursday, October 30, 2008 08:50 AM

As Twain may or may not have actually said

Heaven for climate, Hell for company. I'll take my chances and vote for Obama.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 08:52 AM

A new cliché enters the lexicon

It's no longer "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"; now it's quite evidently "religiosity is the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Utterly despicable, desperate and (one hopes) useless.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 08:53 AM

Odd...

I would've thought that anything short of a theocratically-originated monarchy would be displeasing to the Almighty.

I suppose we could also look to the example of Deborah for inspiration, but you know how the right feels about activist Judges...

Thursday, October 30, 2008 08:53 AM

Blasphemy

Janet Porter does not speak for Jesus Christ.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 08:54 AM

Christian values

Quite a thing, that Christian love, isn't it?

Again, for everyone who asks how we can be good people without such a loving moral framework as Christianity, let me ask:

Can you cite one example, one, of an atheist, agnostic or deist proclaiming that anyone, anyone, will be subjected to eternal torment simply because they voted for the wrong candidate?

Can you cite one example, one, of an unbeliever, doubter or skeptic defining such eternal torment as "perfect love?"

Charles Manson comes to mind, but short of that, I can't think of one.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 08:54 AM

I'll have plenty of company, then

If heaven is exclusively for conservative bitter-enders, I'm not going to be welcome there anyhow.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:01 AM

@Nancy Ott

That's exactly what I was thinking -

"Well, at least I'll be with friends."

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:02 AM

Obviously...

...they didn't get the name WorldNutDaily for nothing. Hey, what's God/Jesus got to say about wanton slaughter of innocent post-born children with Arabic sounding names for political gain? How about usury? Rich people getting into Heaven? Pious faux Christians?

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:02 AM

Something tells me Jesus wouldn't do this chick...

she's pretty ugly & has buck teeth as most of the whacko pseudo skinheads are.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:03 AM

Jesus Has Said Nothing About This Election

Further, Jesus had nothing to say about the GLBT community. Deal with it.

I'm conflicted as to whether she's a bigger fake Christian or fake journalist.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:03 AM

Frankly

If I wasn't going to Hell according to them already, voting Obama isn't going to push me over the edge. ;)

Sheesh. Predictably pathetic or pathetically predictable, these people?

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:04 AM

whack job

if this person and her kind are the ones in heaven, i would rather go to hell. nasty nasty people.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:08 AM

This was on Slate this morning, too.

Porter also said that anyone who voted for Obama against the will of god should stop calling themselves a Christian. I will, if She will stop calling herself an American.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:08 AM

Matthew 7:1

Dear Janet,

Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Matthew 7:3-5 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:08 AM

Correct Quote, Wrong Relation

Ms Porter does know that this specific quote is directed at those using God's name all the time but only in their speech? Those who tell others what God wants but do not follow God's paths? The false prophets, not the well-doers are targeted. This specific God [Jesus Christ] on several occasions makes clear he likes the non-professores leading a good life more than the constant arbiters.

Should I recant this just because rational thought and logic do not apply to Religion? Na ...

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:09 AM

God(tm)

Wow, Janet Porter's God is awfully small, to be concerned about an election in America. But then, that narrow conception of Christianity is part-and-parcel of the Right's religiosity, the crooked cross they keep close to their hard little hearts.

The thing that does crop up is that line about the false hope about the economy -- the Religious Right do get up in arms about making the everyday physical world a better place, alleviating suffering, etc. -- as "false" hope, in the face of the "real" hope of Paradise for them, damnation for all of their enemies. The threat of making this world a better place undoes their pinwheel-eyed notions of End Times and Rapture and what-not.

I mean, if hungry people were actually well-fed, if the poor weren't poor anymore, if the ignorant were educated, if the sick were made healthy, if hope and promise and prosperity were widely shared across the land, who would donate money to televangelists??

Nothing fills a feverish fundamentalist with more despair than hope, it would seem.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:10 AM

Sounds like...

She's first in line to be witchhunter-in-chief in the Palin 2012 campaign...

Oooga-booga, talking snake gonna getchya!

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:10 AM

Yikes

That means that when I die, my choices are going to hell, or spending an eternity with Bush/McCain/Palin supporters! Talk about picking between a turd sandwich and a pitcher of urine.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:10 AM

I just got off the phone with Jesus Christ...

...and he said if you read WingNutDaily, you're going to hell. I responded that if you read WingNutDaily, you're already in hell. Jesus had a good laugh and promised we'd get together for drinks real soon.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:10 AM

this is a good example of what's profoundly wrong with the net

It's undiscriminating and even lightweights like Salon give equal air time to nutcases as they do anyone else. What next "War Room" will you slap up some blog from the Gay Black Midget Hentai Furry Star Trek Porn bloggers for McCain? D'ya think anything is too inconsequential? This is why Slate kicks your ass every day.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:11 AM

I didn't get the email

I didn't get the email from God telling me who to vote for.

I didn't get a phone call from Him either. But since I only have a cell phone, I am not in the phone book, so maybe he couldn't find my number.

But anyway, I haven't received any voting instructions from God, so I can't willfully disobey Him.

Oh, one other thing: Since I consider the fall of the Soviet Union to have been a net gain for the world, ...usher[ing] in the kind of change that brought the Soviet Union to collapse. is something I support fully.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:11 AM

If it is exclusively for conservative bitter-enders...

then it can't be heaven.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:11 AM

Hell again?

I was totally promised this was true in 2000, too, when I voted for Al Gore. Little did I know the choice was between hell after death if I voted for Gore or hell on earth if Bush was elected.

Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:12 AM

No problem

Whew! We non-believers and Jews can go right ahead and vote our consciences, then.

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