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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 12:00 AM

Since when are poor people allowed to vote?

Some conservatives are up in arms about get-out-the-vote efforts in Ohio.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:04 AM

Stupid Republicans

I am so tired of R's demonizing everyone, and as usual they get their facts wrong....

Here in Washington, you can vote if you were a convicted felon, first you must serve your time, second you must pay all your fines, and third there is a 7 year waiting period, so the state/counties know you can keep your nose clean.

I don't know about every state, but come on R's is that all you have?

On a lighter note, here in Kitsap County we have 10,500 new voters! Thanks to Democrats.

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:06 AM

Have there been studies comparing people not allowed to vote vs fraud?

Has there actually been any kind of real research into the numbers of people who were told they couldn't vote? Is that even being tracked? I'm wondering if any state has a requirement to make a note when someone is turned away because their registration was purged.

Has anyone quantified how much actual fraud takes place? The only case I've heard about is Anne Coulter voting where she didn't live.

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:09 AM

I am shocked!

A Republican claim of voter fraud by poor people turns out to be nothing but hot air. I never could have imagined this.

On a more serious note, I am glad to hear that felons who have served their time are now allowed to vote in Ohio. Our justice system is built on the foundation that people can change. Once a person's debt to society has been repaid, they should have their rights restored, so long as the public is not endangered by it (as in prohibitions on felons having firearms or registering sex offenders, etc...).

Having said that, should someone convicted of voter fraud have their voting rights restored?

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:11 AM

Sorry for repeating myself...

...but I'd posted information here in the War Room two days ago in response to our former Ohio Attorney Gen. Ken Blackwell's frantic bleating about "possible voter fraud" in this state. It's *well* worth repeating.

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Check out this in-depth AP article: http://www.ohio.com/news/ap?articleID=884314&c=y

A few choice extracts are copied below.

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"Nobody ever worried about it [same day registration & voting]. It was just there," said Peg Rosenfield, an election expert with the Ohio League of Women Voters. "I knew it was in the law. You've been able to register and cast an absentee vote in this state on the same day since at least 1981."

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"Brian Rothenberg, executive director of the liberal ProgressOhio.org, is skeptical that the GOP knew nothing of the window before the Obama campaign caught onto it.

'Obviously, the Secretary of State at the time (Blackwell) knew about this. He was running for governor and his big base of support at the time was coming from the evangelical churches that are very organized at mobilization,' said Rothenberg, who worked for the Ohio Democratic Party in 2006.

He asserts that Republicans wrote the provision to benefit their own party's candidate, and are only concerned now because it is working to Democrats' benefit.

'I think Ken Blackwell not only discovered it, I think he used it,' Rothenberg said."

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"He [Carlo LoParo, a Republican public relations consultant who worked for Blackwell] acknowledged that the Ohio Republican Party reached out to voters on behalf of Blackwell and other GOP candidates in 2006, asking them to register and take advantage of the new no-fault absentee voting law."

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:12 AM

Kathy Lee's Class Issues

Kathy Lee Gifford mentioned this article on her Today hour yesterday. According to her, the outrage is that people should have proof of residence to vote. Of course, conversation then turned to her pampered pouches, and the disenfranchised were forgotten.

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:17 AM

OH SNAP

I love that every comment on that post on RedState points out to him that he's completely wrong, and even points to the relevant law. And he hasn't changed the post at all yet. As per usual, a Republican honk can't be bothered with the truth even when it's put right in front of his face.

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:18 AM

do you care what bloggers think?

I don't. None of them. Who gives a shit. I don't care what the morons on the checkout line think either.

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:25 AM

Priorities

Wonder why these pro-life Republicans only get mad if somebody gets help to the homeless in the form of a vote?

Where is the outrage from these pro-life Republicans about the fact that many of these same homeless people die in the streets?

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:25 AM

According to the Repuglicans

the only people who should be allowed to vote are the kinds of people who will take a massive government loan to bail out their company, right after giving massive bonuses to their exec's, then send the exec's off on a luxury junket right after the bailout comes through (AIG).

According to this type of supremely spoiled rich brats, the rest of us must come to realize that the richest of the rich are the "good" people. Those of us with lesser means need to stop being so uppity and continue to work our backsides off to support the lavish lifestyles of our "superiors."

After all, just because we don't allow political feudalism anymore, doesn't mean we can't accomplish the same thing economically. And they have, and they will, unless we take back the country and, sadly, go through the pain of having the system come back down to economic reality for all of us. But at least those at the top have the farthest to fall. Those who have already been suffering the most can't go all that much lower, and know how to survive being down there.

Some of us have been there before. Some of us know others, still alive from the last time, who can help us figure out how to get by on nothing.

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:26 AM

Republicans Should Take a Closer Look at Their Demographic

There's a homeless guy who lives in the park near my mother-in-law whose sole companion is a boom box which he uses to blast Rush Limbaugh's show.

We've started walking our dog in a different park.

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:28 AM

Pejman Yousefzadeh?

I'm wondering why someone with this name readily identifies with the Republicans. Doesn't he realize that many of his fellow conservatives would happily ship him to Guantanamo just on the basis of his name?

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:28 AM

The poor need transportation

When people often ask why the poor and the homeless do not get jobs, I tell them that reliable transportation is a major reason. Often, when people are homeless, they no longer have cars. Not all cities have good bus or train systems and, in any case, many poor and homeless people cannot even afford the fares.

It is a kindness actually that the Obama campaign is helping these people to the polls to exercise their RIGHT to vote. Although the campaign may have its own motives, they cannot force people to vote their way. They are merely accomdating access. If they were feeding these people food, they might be praised. Yet they are criticized for allowing them to eat of the loaf of democracy.

Moreover, felons are allowed to vote in many states and if they have served their time, there is no reason why they should not.

The law, in its majestic equality prohibits sleeping under bridges, begging in the streets, and stealing bread, for the rich as well as the poor.

Paraphrasing Anatole France

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