New GOP website VP preference poll, Palin vs Biden.

93% Biden

7% Palin

Not shitting you. Better check it out before they pull it offline:

http://www.gop.mfbiz.com/#/newpalinbidenpoll/4530692820

You're a better person than me, Barack Obama!

Obama's rhetoric is nice, as usual, but he delivers it in the certain knowledge that left-wing muckrakers like Joe Conason and the Kos kids will continue to bash Palin's daughter.

Salonistas like to pretend that Republicans invented dirty politics, but that is a lame lie. They didn't start it, kids.

You know what else should be off limits, calling people who have dedicated their entire careers to helping disenfranchised families RACISTS. And I notice that Bill Clinton was not off limits for the most slanderous attacks in the primaries, though he was just family of the candidate and not running for office. Hypocrisy reigns in the Obamanation.

Connecting Bristol Palin's pregnancy to his mother's is sure to give Obama a little boost with the very social conservatives who are feeling a lot of buyers' remorse right now after embracing Sarah Palin as mother of the century. With seven Palins already in the cart, an eighth might seem a bit gratuitous.

And here is how we can completely take the candidates families out of the discussion. Stop talking about family values. Take marriage off the table as something that the government regulates. Make sex education about actual sex. And protect a woman's right to privacy.

You're right, they didn't invent dirty politics--those predated the modern forms of either of the major two political party.

What the GOP did do, however, was perfect the current configuration of dirty politics; left wingers are just now catching up to the game and embracing that form, since we've learned (the hard way) just how effective they can be.

That said, I'm all up for surrogates and catspaws continuing to make this an issue!

Yes. He is. At least, judging from your posts the past three days.

He's a noble man, indeed. And I hope the GOP treats him with as much respect as he's given them.

He's a better person than I, for sure. I've been thinking, viciously, that the GOP is trying to get us to accept Britney Spears' mom as President. (and I do mean, President, because that is what a VP stands a chance at becoming.)

But I want a better person than I am, when I'm choosing a President.

I'm glad that Obama took the high road on this topic and told people, his supporters included, that we should not be debating the personal issues of politicians. (He said, very unequivocally, that the personal life of Bristol Palin has no relevance on what kind of governor or VP Sarah Palin may potentially be).

While I'm 100% for comprehensive sex education, I am not sure that this case in particular highlights the cons of abstinence-only education. We have no idea if Bristol and her partner used contraceptives. For all we know, the condom could have broke. Point is, we have no idea.

And we are not entitled to know. I agree with Obama: we should leave Bristol alone. We should leave Sarah Palin's parenting out of this. We have no business passing judgment on her as a mother or questioning the decisions she made while pregnant with her last child. We also have no business questioning whether or not she should have accepted the VP nomination in the face of her daughter's pregnancy and inevitable media spotlight - we were not privy to their conversations and we don't know how Bristol feels about this. And we are not entitled to know.

I do understand the anger about the seeming hypocrisy of the right wing ("My family has a choice, but you don't"). Let's celebrate the fact that they have a choice, because we've been fighting for it. Let's keep fighting - not to put them down - but so they come to realize that having reproductive choices is indeed a right that ANY woman, including their own daughters, should be able exercise in private without fear - and without having to explain themselves to anyone.

What does Sarah Palin want to do for America? What policies will she support? As a representative of our country, how will she approach tricky international issues? Will she be a good leader for our country?

These questions are the only ones fair for debate. Let the real discussion continue.

(cross posted with some editing as a comment on feministing)

People like you make him look bad.

Just like I said.

WTF is wrong with you people?

So am I.

That is not a pleasant feeling.

EEEEEEWE!

And Obama is a whole heck of a lot better than John McCain who has made no effort whatsoever to control the hateful lies spewed by the Right. Hey, at least this is true! We can't say the same about the "socialist" comment that MCCain made about Obama, can we? What about "whitey" or Ayers smears? Any thoughts on those?

Yes, smart move. Especially since the real story is that Palin claimed to fight the bridge to nowhere but actually backed it while it was proposed and regretted that it was lost afer it was defeated.

This is what Salon ought to be talking about. As well as an in depth reading of the whole problem of teenage pregnancy and the right wing's woefully inadequet response to it.

"When asked about an “unnamed McCain advisor” accusing the Obama campaign of spreading despicable rumors surrounding Bristol Palin online, Obama interrupted the reporter mid-question. “I am offended by that statement. There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us,” he said directly. “Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I ever thought that it was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that - they’d be fired,” he added."

FIRED!

Why didn't you quote that paragraph?

FIRED!

I accept your apology.

Put down the crackpipe.

McCain fathered a black baby out of wedlock!