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Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:00 AM

Oops

Both Barack Obama and Joe Biden made odd slip-ups in their speeches Saturday.

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Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:51 PM

Speech gaffes

You people, media pundits, really need the old Soviet Union back because a small speaking gaffee doesn't really determine a comprehensive analysis of the politicians' philosophy and governing style. Hell, just a moment ago, I heard Scott Simon call his reporter David, when his name is Don. You journalists need to get a life.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:52 PM

Charlie Gibson, Partisan

ABC's coverage cut away in the middle of Biden's speech, just as he was unleashing the most ferocious part of his attack on Bush and on McCain (connecting him through his voting record to Bush's policies).

Charlie Gibson, partisan Republican, announced, "well, it's all over" -- even as Biden was visibly still speaking beneath the voiceover.

Another disgrace from ABC-Disney-etcetera.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:52 PM

Barack America for President

yes

Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:56 PM

I'm voting for Barack Obama.

But I'd be even more likely to vote for Barack America.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:57 PM

Verbal slip-ups...

...and in other news, a man walking down the street stumbled over a bump in the sidewalk.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:57 PM

Yawn

Someone making live speech makes a small mistake, then immediately corrects self.... film at eleven.

(It would be hilarious to run Obama's one or two gaffs next to a 30 min montage of curious George Bush's jaw dropping mangling of the English language)

Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:58 PM

Barack Obama America BOA

I claim the copyright but Barack has to have it made legal 1st. It was a very astute Fruedian Slip by Biden. Now the knee jerk republicans will make a video calling Barack "BOA" Barack Obama America, with a snake eating a baby, and I'll still encourage people to vote for him and Biden. Good choice BOA, I've liked Biden for years. His humor is normal and natural like mine. It's o.k. to tease your friends. McCain's jokes are demented and bizarre, they make me cringe.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 01:03 PM

Amusing.

If Biden could convince moderates that his running mate really is Barack America, they might have a chance at winning.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 01:05 PM

When the dumb people write in, as they will...

...I would like to request that they please stop talking. I just read ten pages of comments about Obama's pick of Biden. Please, be silent, all of you. All of you wishy-washy Democrats, all of you faux "Democratic" Republicans. The comments on Salon consist of four types of comments:

1) Earnest comments in favor of Obama.

2) Earnest comments against Obama.

3) Insane comments by crazy trolls.

4) Earnest comments in response to the crazy trolls...

Which leads to--

1) More crazy comments by the trolls.

2) More earnest attempts to reason with the trolls.

3) Crazy comments.

4) Angry, earnest replies to the crazy comments.

At which point I bashed my head in with a rock and died, so that I wouldn't have read anymore. The greatest failure of the internet is that it has convinced ordinary people that their remarks and feelings are of interest/importance. They are not. Stop writing them down and posting them. I don't care how you feel about Obama or Biden. No one does. The only people who do are your fellow 50 or so commenters.

We have a good Presidental Candidate and a good Vice Presidental Candidate. You can vote Obama/Biden or not. If you don't, then you are an idiot/asshole, or you're very wealthy, which is the one sensible reason I can think of for being a Republican.

Either way, shut up. Stop your handwringing, stop talking about how you feel about every infintesimal thing. Stop talking, in fact, and go out there and do something.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 01:08 PM

haha

*spends several minutes composing salon comment to tell other salon commenters to stop wasting time composing comments and to go outside already*

Saturday, August 23, 2008 01:29 PM

I always blamed that on democracy,myself, not the internet

The greatest failure of the internet is that it has convinced ordinary people that their remarks and feelings are of interest/importance. They are not. Stop writing them down and posting them. I don't care how you feel about Obama or Biden. No one does. The only people who do are your fellow 50 or so commenters.

If and when you go into a roadside bar/dive, do you complain that all the common folk are drinking there?

Do you really think that some [inserted semi-learned pundit name of choice here] is posting here for free when they can monetize their delphic utterances elsewhere? I'm going to have a bud-lite (or is it belgian lite) now.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 01:34 PM

Odd, but not nearly as worrying as McCain's...

How about McCain not knowing the difference between Suni & Shiah, flubbing the name of the Georgian President, getting the facts about the Iraqi timeline wrong, talking about the Iraqi-Pakistan border when no such border exists, etc., etc?

Can we focus on the truly frightening gaffes a potential presidential candidate makes?

Saturday, August 23, 2008 01:40 PM

@ slcgrad: Your computer has an off button.

Do you?

Saturday, August 23, 2008 01:52 PM

@slcgrad

You have obviously never sat around with friends in a bar (or your living room) just talking about things, read an alternative newspaper, or chatted with a cab driver. The internet didn't convince people that they have something worth saying - that's just basic human nature. People have been talking and writing about everything under the sun since they invented words. The internet simply provided a different forum in which to say things. If reading makes you want to gouge your eyes out, then I suggest you stop reading. Or at least make sure there aren't any sharp objects nearby when you read.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 01:54 PM

This is terrible...

...and it's not even the worst of it. Biden is known for sometimes using the word "who" instead of "whom".

Saturday, August 23, 2008 02:39 PM

Thanks for the GOp spin points!

Andrea Mitchell reported the McCain campaign was pushing these exact same points. Thanks for giving them prominence and turning them into something much more than they are.

Odd slips? Not at all. Alex, you don't do much public speaking or you'd know differently. Obama has heard himself introduced 100s of times as "the next President of the United States" and so when he made an intro, he repeated the phrase that's been pounded into his unconscious. And Biden was thinking of Obama for America.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 02:57 PM

Not so bad

Actually I don't think Biden calling him Barack America is such a bad thing. It might actualy help combat the right wing talking point about him not neing patriotic enough.

But the bottom line is...isn't far too much attention paid to things like this?

Saturday, August 23, 2008 03:02 PM

Black America?

color me cynical but that's probably what he stumbled over.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 03:04 PM

Alex can make so much hay over nothing that . . .

he ought to invest in a horse farm.

Saturday, August 23, 2008 03:07 PM

However, CountryClubMensaMan,

I have never heard him cruelly suggest that another person kill himself and when he decides to dig a bit deeper he often makes interesting blogposts.

Just my opinion, but I believe posts suggesting that other people kill themselves should be removed.

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