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Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:00 AM

MoveOn responds to McCain ads

The liberal advocacy group released a spot of its own, which features a man saying, "Sen. McCain, you let me and my kids down."

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Thursday, July 31, 2008 09:23 AM

10 years

What's up with the overdub "which won't produce oil for 10 years" - it looks and sounds shoddy. Tell me they aren't going to release it like this.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 09:39 AM

Next time, don't bother me until they run it.

How is this any more newsworthy than the crap I post on YouTube? Until they put some money behind it's nothing but some poorly-shot footage--your claim that they're going to spend 150k notwithstanding.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:03 AM

Ah yes, all for the children.

Well, show's over. Nothing to see here. The trup card has been played, nobody needs to wait for the end of the game. "You let my children down." Parading the spectre of let-down children around is exactly the kind of taste we've come to expect from MoveOn.org. Of course it is terrible form for Obama to run a negative ad against his opponent, but laudable and its sacred duty as a bastion of truth and fairness for MoveOn to invoke our dear sweet little children.

But of course the DNC had nothing to do with it, so fair game, innit?

Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:21 AM

Not the Best they Can Do by far

Why aren't the DNC and MoveOn AND Obama all attacking McCain on the real problem with off-shore drilling, the fact that the only people who tangibly benefit are oil companies?

This whole "lowering prices at the pump" is a bogus lie. How exactly will prices go down as consumption is still rising? Unless I am greatly mistaken, the oil companies will be able to sell the oil on the GLOBAL MARKET, meaning we fight with India and China and the other 7 billion for our gas.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:11 AM

Exxon Profits

If nothing else this seems like a good day for this ad to come out. The only way offshore drilling will benefit the American people is if they hold oil company stock. Exxon made $12B last quarter while we all paid $4/gal for gas. I'm not shocked that an oilman President has led to record oil company profits. Capitalism run amok.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:35 AM

It's about supply and demand.

My understanding is that the more oil the world has the lower the price goes. We are using all the oil that we have so the demand is more than the supply. Whatever we can do to add to the supply, will help the price go down. We will get the oil in 2 to 4 years...not 10. Oh and just think, if Bill Clinton hadn't vetoed the Anwar drilling legislation, we would already be getting oil out of Alaska and the prices wouldn't be so high. Stop this insanity and realize that drilling is more of a sure thing than alternative fuels and all the other long term solutions. We need to move forward and stop whining and act like Americans.

Oh and the ad sucks! Waa Waa Waa

Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:49 AM

@meanstreet

My understanding is that the more oil the world has the lower the price goes. We are using all the oil that we have so the demand is more than the supply. Whatever we can do to add to the supply, will help the price go down.

That only works in a true free market where all suppliers complete for business. We don't have such a market. Most of the global oil supply comes from OPEC, and they can control the supply to manipulate the price. If the U.S. adds more production, OPEC can simply throttle their own production to keep the price wherever they want it. They can even drive the price higher to make up for the reduction in sales.

The only way the U.S. could drive the price down is by replacing a substantial fraction of OPEC's output. Since the U.S. only has about 2% or 3% of the world's oil reserves, that just ain't gonna happen.

We will get the oil in 2 to 4 years...not 10

Nope, not the offshore oil because there is a 5+ year waiting list for deep-water drilling ships and equipment before exploration can even begin. And not from the wildlife reserve either because a lot of infrastructure needs to be built to move oil from the middle of nowhere to someplace useful.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:12 PM

@meanstreet

P.S.: You might want to consider the benefits of patience.

If Congress rushes through a lifting of the drilling bans and the Bush administration gets to cut the lease deals, you can be certain that Bush will give the oil companies sweetheart deals that let them screw our eyes out. We might do better if the next administration isn't a wholly-owned subsidiary of the oil companies.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:36 PM

Chilling!

Thank you Alkaline!

It is rather frightening that some (meanstreet) so profoundly misunderstand the situation. And it is very frustrating that McCain realizes and exploits this. Be certain, he is completely aware his strategy will not produce the results he touts and is counting on some voter's simple reading of a complex problem (more means cheaper, right?) to get him into office. It does not work that way. Please everyone, do your homework. This will effect us all. At least force McCain to do something substantive by showing that we can see through smoke and mirrors.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 04:14 PM

Bad looping

They REALLY need to reshoot this thing. The middle audio edit is horribly distracting.

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