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Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:00 AM

MSNBC's Mitchell, McCain campaign manager duke it out

A TV appearance by Rick Davis quickly turns heated when his campaign's tactics come up.

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Thursday, July 31, 2008 01:11 PM

Mitchell

The Republican Party will milk this for "the Liberal Media hates true Americans like John McCain" for weeks, guaranteeing that no Conservative (or possible even Independent) will believe any facts that are reported by anyone other than FoxNews from now through November.

Ther was nothing accidental in this. Rick Davis has now innoculated the McCain campaign against all reports for the remainder ofthe campaign season.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 01:24 PM

Andrea Mitchell

Andrea Mitchell seems like a nice person, but she is a serious lightweight when it comes to journalism. Rick Davis walked all over her and got out some of the most ridiculous charges imaginable against Barack Obama - paramount among them the idea that Obama went negative first. This is a crafty conflation of attacking on the issues vs. attacking on questions of character. Obama has yet to do that. McCain does nothing but that. Good grief, but my 15 year-old son could do a better job than Mitchell and getting the facts out of Davis.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 01:29 PM

McCain is employing people that worked very hard to start the Iraq war

I just read something that I haven’t seen anywhere else. I decided to read up on The Project For A New American Century. I know that many people here are better read and informed than I am, but did you know that McCain’s top guy Randy Scheuneman, is listed as a founding director, along with Bill Kristol, whom we are all unfortuately aware of? Has this been discussed? I found that facinating and horrifying. It was in Wikipedia. He needs to fire his manager.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

Thursday, July 31, 2008 01:29 PM

Great Reality TV!

THIS is the kind of stuff that we haven't seen in almost a decade! 60-minutes type stuff that doesn't let the point of focus skate by with a free pass. If there had been more of this in the run-up to the war, we wouldn't be so screwed right now.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 01:30 PM

Accidents happen all the time

Many Republican politicians play a hard ball game for sure, but I think you're under estimating their understanding of the consequences of their actions. The media doesn't like being scorned and they tend to be thinned skinned. The media has been covering for McCain and I'm not sure if it is wise to take that completely for granted. FOX news ratings are down this year, so the corps may decide there is more money in torching McCain especially if his compaign pisses them off.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 01:43 PM

Wow, there's some news

Shameless political hack acts like a shameless political hack in TV interview

Move along here folks, nothing to see.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 01:43 PM

About Damn Time

It's about time someone on TV finally called the Bush=McCain campaign to account.

This whole arrogance, presumptuous, uppity line of attack is so petty, trite, tired, inaccurate and BORING I'm amazed anyone in the media actually thinks it is worth commenting on. If anything, the Media should be amazed that the Bush=McCain campaign has so little that is positive to say about the candidate that the campaign has degenerated into petty and baseless character smears this early in the game.

Senator McCain actually has commercials that state in huge bold letters, PRESIDENT MCCAIN. That isn't presumptuous? McCain constantly derides and demeans his opponent in print, televised and electronic media, declaring him unfit for the office as if he actually has standing to make such pronouncements - that isn't arrogant? Candidate Bush dragged his utterly unwaranted and inflated sense of entitlement and ego around behind him like a rotting carcass throughout the entirety of the 2000 campaign and that wasn't presumptuous, uppity or arrogant - that was "swagger."

Let's cut the bullshit and just acknowledge that whenever the media or the Bush-McCain campaign uses the word arrogant or elitist, they are really saying "How DARE this uppity ni---r with his fancy vocabulary and ability to articulate a complex understanding of the world attract such huge crowds of people and spark both foreign and domestic excitement about America again, while the bitter, angry, hostile old white man perusing the cheese aisle is ignored. How DARE he act PRESIDENTIAL while running for president! It's not FAIR!"

If this is really the best the Bush=McCain campaign can come up with, they really are desperate.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 01:48 PM

Why give manipulative, mean people airtime?

This isn't a story, it's a way for a political operative to keep harping on his fatuous, mean spirited talking points.

Not once did Mitchell call Davis on his overbearing behavior - a strategy that works when one side is trying to be polite while the other stomps all over the place. She could simply have said, "You've got to be kidding, you're telling me you had no idea what you were doing in that campaign ad?!"

Nope, that's too straightforward. Instead this mealy mouthed lack of challenge is called, wrongly, "objectivity."

Thursday, July 31, 2008 01:49 PM

Even when your facts are right you are still wrong...

Andrea Mitchell is a lightweight in her ability to articulate a position as it showed on the video. When Rick Davis spoke about how McCain wants to relieve the price of oil now by drilling in Anwar, she should have been able to ask the obvious question of when such drilling would be available in the market (2027). Too often she was apologizing for her words such as the use of "bitter", when in fact, it was a nonsensical issue. Fact is, Obama has articulated a plan where he would end the Enron loophole, the largest culprit in the price of oil.

As far as negative campaigning goes, McCain's ads were the first I saw of any of it. Obama seems to have no choice other than to respond. Funny thing is, McCain's tactics are eerily similar to Rovian methods. McCain himself was a victim in South Carolina, felt the effects and vowed to never engage in such. Yet, here he is, with his advisors directing him?

Davis' strategy is not my cup of tea, but look at the recent results. In Ohio, Pa. and Fla., the gap between BO and JM is narrowing. Guess negativity still works, much to my dismay.

Thursday, July 31, 2008 01:49 PM

More Andrea

Andrea was a lightweight during this "interview" and Davis was a complete blowhard, making it easy to determine where the McCain campaign gets its viewpoint. In the final analysis, the fact that McCain hasn't been quoted for anything regarding his "plan for America" coupled with the pass he's gotten from the mainstream media suggests that he's already finished. At least Hillary didn't turn into the "victim" until much farther along in her campaign. We are witnessing the final throes of the neocon death grip on this country. I'm sure the death rattle won't be long in coming.

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