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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:00 AM

Ranking Obama's final four

With the Washington Post reporting that Bayh, Biden, Kaine and Sebelius are at the top of the Democratic candidate's shortlist, it's time for your rankings.

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 07:59 AM

The Final Four ranked

1) Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius -- An Irishman and a Finnish composer in the White House, what's not to like?

2) Delaware Sen. Joe Biden -- a grown-up on the ticket would be pleasant. And he is a credible President.

3) Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine -- unknown to me, and I'm weary of Southerners on national ticket

4) Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh -- what's he done?

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:04 AM

Disappointed

Well I am disappointed with all those folks, he needs to dip into a good pool, not someone with freaky eyebrows or other senators. How about a governor, how about the governor of Montana? Geez.... lets hope these aren't really the final choices.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:05 AM

My picks

1. Kathleen Sebelius - strong bipartisan record and her dad was the governor of Ohio and she still regularly visits her childhood home in Michigan.

2. Evan Bayh - experience as a senator and governor, plus he's from a swing state, although he's really boring.

3. Tim Kaine - really, basically even with Bayh in my opinion--doesn't help with the experience concerns.

4. Joe Biden - it's time for change and Biden will be great in the cabinet, but doesn't represent the kind of change this ticket needs.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:05 AM

Biden wouldn't be a bad idea

After that Sebelius.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:05 AM

I Think Its Kaine Too.

He brings the most to the table. Besides helping Va, there can be help in NC and even WV. Sebelius probably can be considered only if Obamas team think the election is a lock.

Biden is not a good option, unless he is losing specifically on foreign affairs. And Bayh offers similar to what Kaine does but with less EV's and senator v governor.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:07 AM

Final 4 rank

1. Sebelius

2. Biden

3. Bayh

4. Kaine

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:07 AM

if i must....

1) biden

2) kaine

3) sebelius

4) bayh

this list seems like the final four in case the first choice says no. bayh makes almost no sense -- he's young, he's inexperienced, he's a senator -- umm, obama x2? there's been a rash of studies showing that the VP pick doesn't usually swing many states, so bayh is right out. kaine is nice, but again, while he has executive experience, he is relatively unknown and inexperienced in foreign affairs world, and he's only been in office...what, one and a half terms?

i want to know why wes clark's name is missing from this list.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:07 AM

Dull as dirt

Your four are dull as they could be, except for Sebelius. I am convinced that Hilliary should have first offer since she was so popular with actual, not projected, voters. That aside, it is going to hard for me to go pull that lever for another couple of men. I suppose I will, holding my nose.

Ranking? Sebelius, Kaine, Bayh, Biden

Admittedly I am a Hilliary supporter. But the names I've seen mentioned have nothing much to stir the soul or the interest in this house. I wish there were someone who could be exciting, smart, strong on issues where Obama is weak.

I've been wishing for something to interest, encourage, and inspire me from the Democrats. The nominees for the Green Party are at least interesting. Obama, other than his race, is another man voting the same way all the bought and paid for Dems have been. Oh well. Hope for the best, plan for the worse.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:08 AM

Bayh = Lieberman redux

And the third leg of the stool comprising Lieberman and McCain.

p.s. Teresa - wrong spelling for the Finnish composer...but I suspect you know that.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:08 AM

Biden? No!

I would not vote for a ticket with the Senator from MasterCard and Visa on it.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:10 AM

final 4

1) Kathleen Sebelius

2) Joe Biden

3/4 Tim Kaine and Evan Bayh---tied

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:17 AM

Sebelius, Bayh, Kaine, Biden

Sebelius should be first because she delivers what Obama says he is actually looking for: a proven ability to transcend partisan differences and get things done. Of these four candidates, Sebelius best reinforces Obama's outside-Washington change agent image.

Bayh beats Kaine for second because he is more likely to deliver Indiana than Kaine is to deliver Virginia. Bayh is more popular in his state and he has accomplished more as governor. Neither one is well known nationally, but Bayh has national experience and Kaine does not.

Biden deserves to be dead last because he represents the inside Washington gridlocked status quo that Obama is running against. He also has an unfortunate affinity for gaffes on the campaign trail, and Obama is too careful to take that kind of unnecessary risk.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:17 AM

Ranking Roger

Kaine

Bayh

Sebelius

Biden

The only concern about Kaine is the relative lack of name recognition nationally. But his presence could certainly solidify the middle.

Same for Bayh as to the latter, plus--as noted--delivering Indiana's electors. The problem is a two-senator ticket (how's that worked lately?).

Sebelius? Look, I don't want to throw cold water on the hopes and dreams of my progressive bretheren (and sisteren?), but the country is simply not going to elect a black man AND a woman to the two highest offices in the land. We ain't there yet. Sorry, but reality demands the truth, whether you like it or not.

Biden? He's gonna be in the cabinet, not the Naval Observatory.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:18 AM

Probably none of them....

They all make me yawn, except JOE BIDEN. I like Joe's feistiness and am not generally bothered by his verbal gaffes. But, I think TIM KAINE is at the very, very top of this short list, because:

He isn't in Congress, he's white, he's semi-Southern, he's a former missionary, and he's very conservative.

So, here's my list based on these 4 choices:

(1) KAINE

(2) BAYH

(3) BIDEN

(4) SIBELIUS

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:18 AM

vote

1. Biden

2. Bayh

3. Kaine

4. Sebelius

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:19 AM

4

I'm not very enthusiastic about this final four but the only one that ranks above 4 is Kathleen Sebelius. Everyone else is the same.

1. Kathleen Sebelius

4. the others.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:20 AM

Rankings

1. Sebelius. It's time for a woman, and the Clinton people will get over it (they already have).

2. Bayh. Experienced and appealing, though I think it's a myth that a VP candidate can flip a state on his own.

3. Kaine. Kind of an unknown, and again, I don't think he alone can win Virginia. Obama's going to win it regardless.

4. Biden. Too many embarrassing gaffes.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:23 AM

vote

1. Sebelius

2. Kaine

3. Biden

4. Bayh

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 08:23 AM

Kaine?

Admittedly, I am not from Virginia. But, is there something about this guy the rest of us don't know?

To be a VP you should be dynamic. From what I have seen, this guy could put you to sleep as fast as McCain.

He really is a sleeper.

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