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Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:00 AM

Conservatives worry about McCain backslide on immigration

Obama's not the only presidential candidate with "base issues" this week. Conservatives are getty antsy about McCain's renewed talk of comprehensive immigration reform.

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 01:16 PM

Somebody's gotta be roughed up, right?

This is serious stuff. McCain made a promise to the voters who chose him over his rivals in the Republican primaries.

Yes, Byron, not being able to demonize and humiliate millions of poor immigrants would be so un-Republican! Why, if Saint McCain doesn't keep his mealy-mouthed "promise," you might have to start demonizing the gays! Oh, wait...

Thursday, July 10, 2008 01:25 PM

True Colors

Republicans afraid of Mexicans, Republicans afraid of black voter surge. White, right and lookin for a fight.

Thursday, July 10, 2008 01:33 PM

Perhaps the Dems should take a lesson from their predecessors

Just as the New York Democratic Party of 100-120 years ago locked up the Irish and other ethnic minorities of the time, establishing dominance in the city (and, to a lessser extent, in the state as a whole) which more or less has lasted to the present, maybe today's Dems should look at the opputunity presented by the Latino immigrants.

Studies show that by 2050 Latinos may make up nearly 30% of the national population. If the Dems could swing a coalition of Latinos, African-Americans, and progressive whites, they would certainly be able to dominate the collective politics for some stretch of time, with GOP presidents and/or congresses few and far between.

I mean, most of these immigrants are nice, homey people, their food and culture are wonderful and interesting, and their women are often HOTTIES!

Thursday, July 10, 2008 01:39 PM

If Dems were smart

They'd propose another immigration bill similar to the last one, just to put the Repubs and McCain on the spot.

Thursday, July 10, 2008 01:43 PM

If the Dems were smart

they would collect some of the more outrageous statements about immigration made by Republican legislators (and there's plenty of them), translate them to spanish, print it all on to a double-sided 8.5"x 11" sheet of paper and distribute it far and wide in the hispanic communities across the US.

Thursday, July 10, 2008 01:56 PM

What Promise did Mccain break?

More politcal posturing from the left,like this article,does not serve us well.The last Immagration Bill was called the "McCain-Kennedy Bill" remember?What John McCain and most of both houses want is just not waht most americans want.Every american must be on notice because they will try to back door this issue and repeat the same mistake Ronald Reagan warned us of when he reluctantly signed a simular bill to to try get the borders secure in the 80's.Lobbyist on both sides profit with the status quo or any bill that doesn't secure these borders,and our Senate and Congress are to corrupt and self serving to do thier job,the will of the people regarding this issue.McCain has made clear his preference and to state or write that this is changing his position,or breaking some promise or whatever is misleading .Shame on you.McCain said any immigration reform would require secured borders first along with whatever else was decided.He stated very clear he was of a differint mind but he heard the "will" of the people loud and clear and until a change in public sentiment he was obligated that way to insure secure borders first.The two biggest issues we as american can agree on as a majority and nothing gets done.The energy bill and securing borders and our infrastructure.Makes you thinks as americans if this doesn't change soon we should disregard party and re-elect nobody.This way, at least ,it would take the new ones a while to learn how to rob from us ;) .

Thursday, July 10, 2008 01:56 PM

@siebecker

Excellent idea. The republicans do their "grading" of dem politicians in the right wing church communities that constitute their base.

Perhaps the dems could create something similar within the faith community of Catholic diocese with large Latino congregations. Word would get around the immigrant community rapidly.

Thursday, July 10, 2008 03:19 PM

Everybody should be suspicious of McCain

The brown-people-hating conservatives are worried about what a president McCain would do. Those Hispanic voters who want illegals to have an easy path to citizenship should be worried even more than the conservatives. At some point in time, McCain has told each group what they want to hear. At some point in time, a president McCain would have to break his promise to one or the other.

Scenario 1: House Democrats pass an amnesty or near-amnesty bill. McCain might want to sign it, but we will never know because there will still be over forty Republican senators and they will terminate it with extreme prejudice (pun intended). Status quo continues.

Scenario 2: House Democrats feel no pressure to ramp up enforcement efforts--the b-p-h conservatives have no pull with them. But some agribusiness companies push their state congressmen for a guest-worker program and--to make it palatable to the rest of the county--the congressmen add some window-dressing to the enforcement efforts. If this no-amnesty,secure border,guest-worker bill made it through the Senate, McCain would happily sign it (thinking big business would love it and the conservatives would be placated). As for the amnesty people (whom McCain doesn't really need), he would tell them we'll forge a path to citizenship after we've secured the borders. But though the borders will be made more secure, they will never be completely secured: so McCain will never have to start building that path.

Friday, July 11, 2008 06:49 AM

liberals worry about damage to the working class

Liberals worry, too, about the effects of massive amounts of uneducated immigrants and the destructive effect this has on working class wages and the obvious social discord that is caused.

Mexican Americans and Blacks are more adversely affected by this immigration than are others.

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