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Tuesday, June 3, 2008 12:00 AM

Obama to Clinton: Want to meet?

The presumptive Democratic nominee and the runner-up chat.

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Tuesday, June 3, 2008 10:10 PM

BILLARY Clinton.

Barack Obama picking BILLARY Clinton as vice president will be like me picking a spitting Cobra as a room mate!

Tuesday, June 3, 2008 10:56 PM

Lifelong Democrat who cannot support Obama

He lost me when the DNC rigged the Florida/Michigan resolution so it came out in his favor.

Good luck to him winning without the Democratic Party's core backbone and wallet - women of whatever age.

Am praying for a brokered convention or an Act of God between now and August.

Tuesday, June 3, 2008 11:09 PM

Transcript of actual phone call

Clinton: "You give me the V.P. and I'll deliver 18 million voters."

Obama: "Who are you again?"

Tuesday, June 3, 2008 11:13 PM

@s

@KYJurisDoctor -- I say go ahead with that roomate plan of yours.

@lsophia -- How could you really want a brokered convention? What a mess that would be. What credibility could she ever have if they took the nom from BHO and gave it to her? Even if she won the office she would be undermined worst than GWB.

Believe me I'm a big Hillary fan, but she lost fair and square no matter how you count it, and she needs to bow out this week, veep or not. Obama seems like a smart guy. I think he knows he needs the women, among others. He may -- unlike the media -- even realize that we are half the country, not a special interest group.

Tuesday, June 3, 2008 11:14 PM

@LSophia

Hey, another person who puts Hillary above Party and above Country!

Well it's your choice, but if you become a McCainocrat, then good luck! Send us a postcard from the Shitcan of History!

Tuesday, June 3, 2008 11:15 PM

No mandate!

Unfortunately, Senator Obama sounded a lot like President George Bush tonight. You don't have a manadate when you loose the popular vote, your pledged delegate lead is soley from caucas state wins and the super delegates have just over turned the will of the majority of voters and promised you the nomination. Please remember that super delegates don't count until they vote in Denver. It kind of like making a speech about Iraq as opposed to casting an actual vote!

Tuesday, June 3, 2008 11:16 PM

Hill's dream ticket

I suspect that Clinton's terms are that she will accept the vice-presidency if Obama agrees to give up his Secret Service detail. A girl's got to dream, doesn't she?

Tuesday, June 3, 2008 11:32 PM

@Concerned_Reader_SF

Unfortunately, Senator Obama sounded a lot like President George Bush tonight. You don't have a manadate when you loose the popular vote, your pledged delegate lead is soley from caucas state wins and the super delegates have just over turned the will of the majority of voters and promised you the nomination. Please remember that super delegates don't count until they vote in Denver. It kind of like making a speech about Iraq as opposed to casting an actual vote!

Projecting much? I see you're a big fan of "fuzzy math" and Making Your Own Reality.

I wouldn't worry about superdelegates. In fact, it will be funny to see them defect away from Clinton over the next few days.

Tuesday, June 3, 2008 11:47 PM

Pitul and sad

Hilllary Clinton, as usual, went directly for the lowest common denominator. Her supporters usual selfish and destructive behavior is in no way surprising.

The fact that some of them could attack Barack Obama for making a speech about the Iraq War instead of voting against it when he wasn't even in the U.S. Congress at the time is incredibly sad.

So I figured I'd give them an excerpt of that speech, which they love to deride, but which is actually brilliant and far-sigthed. Unlike not reading the National Intelligence Estimate (as Hillary didn't.)

"I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.

So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president today. You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s finish the fight with Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to make sure that the UN inspectors can do their work, and that we vigorously enforce a non-proliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons already in their possession, and that the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across the globe.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil, through an energy policy that doesn’t simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil.

Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair."

Still think he's an idiot?

Wednesday, June 4, 2008 12:05 AM

Play Your Audience

libertyson posits a chunk of LaBamba's speech: "I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.

So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president today . . . . "

And on it goes.

I wonder what speech he'll give to right-wingnut AIPAC folks when he speaks / panders to them on Wednesday?

Wednesday, June 4, 2008 12:09 AM

LOST

After the outright theft in 2000 and the suspicion of theft in Ohio in 2004 I thought we could finally get one right. But now we had a choice between two extremely flawed candidates. No one won tonight, we all lost.

Wednesday, June 4, 2008 12:10 AM

Clintonites for McCain

It befuddles my mind that so many Clinton supporters would turn around and help elect a President ensuring that everything that Hillary has spent 35 years fighting for would not be accomplished. Is that worth disenfranchsisng Obama supporters in Michigan?

Hey Hillary supporters in FL and MI- are you angry? Why don't you direct that anger towards those who put you in this position. You know, the sorry excuse for legislatures who are ruining your fine states. Your local state rep caused this whole mess, yet you're going to vicitmize the next generation of Americans in response.

That makes little sense. In fact, it sounds Republican. I just wish Republicans would quite pretending to be bitter women. Eventually it's got to be recognized that the feminsit candidate locked up the Democratic nomination. Yes, that's right. You don't have to be a woman to be a feminist. Look it up.

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