Once the primaries are officially over, I think many will calm down and, with a clearer head, see that all of Senator Clinton's problems weren't due to "Misogynistic Hillary haters in the Obama camp and MSM". And maybe some will actually do some research into the issues and find the truth behind the talking points.

Nader didn't even take 5% of votes away from Gore but that was still enough to make Bush president.

If ONLY 90% of Clinton supporters vote for Obama, and the rest abstain (much less vote for McCain), then ...

I'm depressed.

According to this survey, Hillary's supporters are mad at Obama for winning fair and square. He's won by largely leaving Hillary alone and letting her ruin her own chances for the presidency.

As I mentioned in another post, Hillary and her supporters should channel their enthusiasm into compelling Obama and the DNC to find and cultivate new female leadership throughout all levels of the party and throughout Obama's administration. Being mad at Obama and voting for McCain who WILL roll back women's rights is about the stupidest move they could make.

If Hillary does not stop her silliness and become a REAL leader who works to make lasting change for ALL women instead of being out for herself, I will not forgive her or her supporters if Obama does not win in the fall. Her supporters have the misguided notion that a vote for McCain is somehow a "message" to stop sexism. The only message a vote for McCain will send is that Hillary and her supporters are short-sighted and vindictive, and that they are willing to harm all women for the ambitions of one. Sickening.

I personally believe that Hillary Clinton is the smartest, hardest working, and most able person on the political scene to be President of the US (all in stark contrast witht he Current Occupant of hte White House).

However I am by no means going to become a Ralph Naderite of the 2008 elections.

Barak Obama is sufficiently capable that he will be up to the job and, most of all, will prevent a third Bush Term in the person of John McCain.

Anyone who wants to let their personal bitterness turn into a revenge motive should just look at what has become of Joe Lieberman. He felt rejected and has turned himself into a puppet of the Republican National Committee.

Is that what we want?

and this will need to start happening next Wed.

If Hillary goes on to continue her failed, hopeless contest, many of us who support Obama will need to clearly state to her that her continued fight will doom her future in politics at any level.

ANY LEVEL WHATSOEVER.

... when we've got so many Hillarepublicans willing to throw America under the bus -- specifically, the "Straight Talk Express".

And if they lose in Nov woe is he and she who were not One with the Obama.

The survey finds that as many 39% of Clinton's female supporters believe that her gender has hurt her candidacy.

What a bunch of Obama-hating idiots these people must be to believe that being a woman would somehow make it more difficult to break into a heretofore entirely male field, compared to how well a man would do.

I'm with the 61% who apparently feel that female presidents of the US are perfectly routine, and that unimaginative, hidebound voters would thus have no hesitation about supporting yet another one (yawn).

In fact they're so conditioned to vote for women in positions of executive leadership that it's lately been hard to get them to vote for men at all. If those feminists keep it up much longer, there will be a crisis of male leadership!

First, each of their cartoon candidates were wildly different, from business Romney, to Lord Giuliana, to Pastor Huckleberry, to actor Thompson, to "maverick" McCain. The Republican infighting was between different philosophies within the party,

Clinton and Obama are nearly identical. Whether this makes democrats more prone to hold grudges is unclear.

The real problem is the broken Democratic system: biased caucuses that don't represent all voters, split delegates within states in bizarre metrics (so that a vote winner can end up with *fewer* delegates), and of course the superdelegates who are going to be disliked by one half of the party.

It's all about her! If I don't get what I want, I'll throw a tantrum at the convention!

Seriously, I don't mind her campaigning, but she's beginning to whine, and her avid followers, mindless as some of them are, have allowed her to develop a cult following. It's more about Hillary, than the party. That's the essence of a cult.

If/when she does decide to work for the good of the party, we can only hope that her influence can bring in the voters.

I second the suggestion that Clinton develop female leadership within the party.

You have to wonder if those Hillary supporters who say won't back Obama are really Democrats.

I really think Hillary's goal is to try and make sure Obam does NOT win, so she can say " I told you so". However Hillary would have a much harder time winning against McCain.

Considering teh majority of Democrats voted for Obama and tehr poiceis are very similar why shouldn't voter for him. He's not teh reason she lost. It's her won fault for playing the "gender" card.

For the last time!

Repeat after me Alex,

repuglicans support Hillary, repuglicans not happy Oboma win primary, smash their party with big rock, repuglicans vote in Democratic primaries.

And lastly, hold onto your backside.... they lie in polls.

All of America's 43 non-white presidents salute your perspicacity.

Good luck with your civil and personal rights under McCain's Spanish Inquisition -- I mean, Supreme Court.

It's not so much Clinton's supporters, in my opinion.

They're passionate about the candidate they support -- and have every reason to be.

The problem is CLINTON is hurting Obama. Her (and Bill's) bizarre claims that she's "really" winning the primary (based on cherry-picked numbers and win conditions made up out of in air), the suggestion that the primary has been "stolen" (despite the fact Clinton agreed to the terms of the race) is what is dropping the numbers Koppelman quotes.

This is a big problem. Clinton is going to lose and she's going out of her way to insinuate and state that Obama's victory is not legitimate. Of course the people who support her with passion are going to believe this -- they go to her websites and get her emails which state these very things time and time again.

The issue isn't whether or not Clinton keeps running. If she wants to run, she should run. The primary will sort itself out. The issue is HOW is she running. And right now, by saying in fifteen different ways, "I'm really winning and this contest is a sham" she's going to fracture the party in a way I worry it can't be put back together again.

Because, of course, if she says after the convention, "Okay. Now we support Obama, it's time and that's what we should do," two reasonable responses leap to mind:

a) "You lied to me! You said he wasn't qualified! You said the nomination was stolen! How can I believe you now? I'm staying home!"

b) "That's right, Hillary. I know that's what you HAVE to say because of all these mean men who bullied and overpowered you. But we'll be back in 2012. I'm staying home!"

This isn't about how Clinton was mistreated by the media. (And she has been, no doubt.) Nor is it about obnoxious Obama supporters on the Internet. (Joan and others -- you all do know that the Internet posters are a self-selected slice of any group -- and usually the sub-group that is the angriest, right?)

No. This is about Hillary -- through her distortions about what happened during the primary and what is happening now -- is betraying people who have put their faith in her. And possibly cracking what could be an amazing Democratic victory because she thinks saying ANYTHING is reasonable political tactic.

I say no. Been there and done that with the Bush/Cheney/Rove years, thank you very much. Ready to move on.

Christopher