Letters to the Editor
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Hillary Clinton = Ralph Nader
Except Ralphy wasn't married to Billy.
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Final arguments
The big argument working against her continues to be that somehow this Illinois upstart managed to beat a Clinton in a democratic party election. Sorry, Senator. That trumps "what could be" any day.
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11 page memo
of polls, charts and electoral college maps produced by Karl Rove. All of which are unnecessary because page twelve outlines that her opponent will fall victim an unfortunate accident.
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At this point...
I don't care who it is. Just get someone against McCain already. Please!!!
This is absurd! We should be pummeling these republicans back to the political desert, and we can't even get out of the primary. Sometimes, I really wish I wasn't a member of the gang that can't shoot straight.
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I believe...
President Kerry also had a lead in the polls at this stage in the campaign against George Bush. All it really shows is that, like her vote for the Iraq war and on such items as banning flag burning, Hillary is driven by polls not by ideology, what is right, leadership or what maybe her own idea. Her argument, essentially, is finger to the wind, I am polling better (and relying on Rove data to boot! The old fart must be laughing his head off!).
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She wants to be just like Scott
The charts and data she has presented to the SD in her desperate attempt to reverse her defeat are about as truthful as Scott McClellan's answers while WH press secretary.
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And another thing...
I wonder if we can assume that this body of evidence proving her to be a more viable candidate based on the polls...was put together by the her political master guru, Mark Penn...he who charted such a brilliant campaign for her coronation that he forgot to figure out how she would actually obtain the crown.
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Just one problem
According to MyDD's current "poll of polls," Obama DOES beat McCain on the electoral map. Which brings me to the real problem (OK, so there were two) with Senator Clinton's argument, which is this: she knows as well as anyone does that polls taken six months in advance of an actual election are essentially meaningless (weren't all the polls last summer telling us that she would have the nomination sewn up by February?). By laying all of this detail out so meticulously and in writing, she has given the McCain campaign yet another weapon to use against Obama in the fall. Which makes me sad.
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Clinton makes appeal to superdelegates
Once again - how does this work? Fuzzy math? Misogyny? What is it now? and yet the Clintons want either the Presidency or VP? like why? Why on earth would anyone take on this couple during the most important election of our country's existence, next to the World Wars? Obama, Clinton & Clinton. How would anyone see that as a plus?
Go ahead, make your run for it -- and kiss your career goodbye - the blow-back for Sen Clinton cannot be pretty. How can she continue to broadcast that 1) Obama cannot win - she should; or 2) She is the better candidate, he isn't.
How embarrassing that neither Clinton nor her core of supporters can see the truth of it -- not that America doesn't want a woman president - they don't want THIS woman as a president. Now that she has thoroughly humiliated herself and Bill has been talking his conspiracy theory antics -- what can possibly be left of her reputation. Was it worth these past weeks? or not.
Sad - so very sad.
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Ya Know What?
I'm getting to the point where I feel like saying "Ah Fuck It. You want this so bad then go ahead...be my guest, it's all yours you big crybaby. See you in 4 years."
I urge all superdelegates, and all pledged delegates, and all primary voters, and all caucus voters, and all pundits, and all family pets, and all carbon based lifeforms, to rally behind the cause of Hillary Rodham Clinton. Let's give her what she so richly deserves...the nomination to the Democratic Party.
Let her win...just so she'll STFU already.
(we'll be able to take out McCain in 2012 anyhow)
;)
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46
A counter-argument:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/obamas-path-to-victory-in_b_103880.html
46 delegates to go. Let's work together to win in November.
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Since Clinton says we can rely on polls, why not seat MI and FL according to polls?
Surely she wouldn't be so cynical as to say that polls only count in other states, would she?
I'm not sure there are recent Clinton/Obama polls, but the polls that track each of them against McCain show that Clinton does better than Obama in Florida and Obama does better than Clinton in Michigan.
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Puhleese ...Karl Roves' Data theres a name you trust in polooing research
Has she not noticed that no one except her and Bill are talking about her as a candidate. Did you notice how they started to pick Obama apart when he "misspoke" How long would the queen of misspeak last. Its over hill wahts the superdeegate count since march???
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I hope the superdelegates are smarter than she thinks they are
What a bunch of propaganda. Current polling with hypothetical matchups are still largely irrelevant, all based on "If the election were held TODAY." November is going to look very different from today, once we settle this Democratic race and the loser's supporters get over themselves and get behind the nominee who stands for what more Americans believe in.
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The question isn't whether she can lawyer her way into the nomination...
...won't happen. Not a chance.
The real question is whether the rest of the superdelegates will step up to the plate on Tuesday/Wednesday, and so end the primary season and begin the general election.
It will be invigorating to finally remove the kids gloves, stop tippy-toeing around the bruised egos in Hillaryland, and lay hard into McCain with both fists pummelling.
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That's the thing, debaser...
I know you're being sarcastic, because I'm right there with you. The hell with this. If she's not going to recognize defeat, what good is winning?
But then I think ok, well, fine. Let's say she does "take this to the convention." Then what? She won't win an appeal of the RBC decision on MI and FL, she won't flip delegates (super or pledged), and on the first ballot, she'll lose somewhat narrowly, but convincingly. And then what? Does she sue the DNC to invalidate the convention results? Go 3rd party?
I just don't see how she thinks this could possibly end well for her. Even if she wins, if you follow her logic that the base of the losing candidate may stay home (her current argument), then she loses the African American community, they stay home, and then she's just John Kerry.
Someone needs to make this clear to her. She can't win. She just can't.