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Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:00 AM

Are Democrats migrating to Obama?

A new poll shows that some people in Hillary Clinton's base of support may be beginning to support Barack Obama, but results from Kentucky tell a different story.

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Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:16 PM

Dems migrating to Obama/posters' posts

I am absolutely disgusted not with the campaign or the candidates, but with the posters who spew so much hatred for any person who may disagree with them.

It is because of people such as these posters that the world will never be a better place because there is too much negativity and inhumanity in their posts.

Thursday, May 22, 2008 01:45 PM

Racism from someone else

Check out the racist comments about Obama in today's New York Times, as well as the ignorant claims that he is an Arab, a Palestinian, and for al Qaeda. Who's saying it? Ignore hillbillies? No, no -- Jewish voters in Florida. Where's the outrage?

Thursday, May 22, 2008 08:54 AM

GALLUP POLL?

OMG. LOL You mean you don't use the Ouija Board anymore?

Gallup is wrong more than it's right. Who even bothers to quote it anymore? Geesh.

Migrating? As in flying South for the winter? Swimming upstream to breed? You've managed to go from using horserace tactics to describe the way the country chooses a President, to using language that now describes freakin' buzzards in Hinckley, Ohio.

Thursday, May 22, 2008 08:00 AM

Are Democrats migrating to Obama?

Another reason to jump off the Clinton ship. Whatever shred of respect I had clung to for Sen Clinton, is thoroughly gone. She has proven without a doubt that it is not America, [or she wouldn't make denigrating innuendos about different voting segments], it isn't the Democratic party [or she wouldn't be threatening a floor fight at the convention in August], and it isn't the voters [or she wouldn't keep talking about the popular vote from primaries and not count the caucuses where she didn't do that well]. It is becoming more and more apparent that it is for her own self service. And that is proved by the fact that if the roles were reversed, we wouldn't be having this discussion whatsoever because the delegate count would be acceptable then.

Unfortunately, this only reinforces the thinking that the Clintons will say and do anything to win -- just look at how they continually move the goalposts to suit their own needs.

As for this being a gender issue - this only looks like female manipulation - how does that fit into sexism? This is how women learned to get what they wanted in the past, instead of speaking up and speaking out about their needs. I thought that was the point of feminism - are at least it was when this movement started - to stop manipulating and start speaking up. Funny how that isn't part of the Clinton conversation except when the goalposts need to be moved.

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 09:19 PM

Obama's qualifications: He's smart, He's articulate, He has vision, and has good judgement

Experience is a red herring. The is no empirical evidence that the more experienced person is always better than the less experienced person. In my own work history, seniority has never an indicator of competence. Experience is the argument people hide behind when they are worried about being passed over in favor of younger but more competent employees.

Abraham Lincoln's national elected experience prior to becoming president was one two year term in the House of Representatives. He became the Republican nominee based on political leaders in other states reading published accounts of the Lincoln-Douglas debates. Basically, Lincoln's qualifications for president was being a lawyer, eight years in the Illinois state legislature, one term in the US congress, and some really good speechs. Sound like anyone we know?

Say what you will about the challenges facing our country today, they pale in comparison to slavery and civil and a President with a resume that mirrors Obama's was up for the task.

Meanwhile James Bucanan's 10 years in the House, 3 terms in the senate, time as the ambassador to Russia, 4 years as Secretary of State, and 3 years as the ambassador to Briton failed to give him the competence needed to prevent the fracturing of the union, to end slavery, or even to prevent the Panic of 1857.

Andrew Johnson was the governor of Tennesse, a US senator, and vice president. He also opposed the 14th Amendment.

Basically, Abraham Lincoln, who's visage appears on two forms of US currency, the monument named after him and Mount Rushmore, had a fraction of the political experience of two of the worst presidents in US history: the person who preceeded him as president and the person who suceeded him.

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 06:06 PM

Race and Gender

Libertarius

Race and gender bias was largely a wash in the 26 states that asked the question in exit polls. The median percentage that said gender was an important factor in their vote was 20% and 18% that said race was important.

So were men voting against a woman or were women voting for a woman? Roughly the breakdown was 9 % men were voting against a woman and 11% women were voting for a woman (my interpretation).

For race, it seemed that roughly an equal percentage of whites deemed race was important as did blacks.(I need to re-check this)

There were, however, regional differences. In WV and Kentucky it was still around 20% of those asked who said race was important, but it was a much higher percentage of whites that comprised the group. Similarly in the southern ex-slave states, it was a higher percentage of blacks that said race was important in their vote.

Clinton polls much higher against McCain than Obama does in the so called Appalacian states, while the Obama campaign hopes to snare a southern state or two by bringing out the black vote.

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 05:01 PM

Supreme Court

Every moderate-to-liberal Supreme Court justice is over the retirement age, and Justice Stevens is 88, I don't want to see the Supreme Court dominated by conservatives for decades, so I'll be voting for whoever the Democratic nominee is.

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 04:20 PM

@jebldmm

So fill us in on these upcoming Obama scandals. Share your great knowledge with us, please.

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 03:10 PM

hicks dig chicks; crackers love cacklers

racism was more than twice the factor in Kuntucky than it was in Oregon. The shrew is through. She just doesn't have the grace to accept what is screamingly obvious. take your bobbleheaded bullshit back to NY, or whatever state you claim to be from this week.

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 02:58 PM

RACE III

PHYLMOM:

KY. and Oregon have roughly the same population, but turnout was bigger in Ky. In KY. 21& of the people said race is an important factor and in Oregon 10% (still a horrible number). That's not a 10% difference: well over twice as many people said race was an important factor in KY than in Oregon. That is a big, big difference. Going by the total vote numbers in each state, that would amount to 52,000 in Oregon and 132,000 in KY. Lexington, we've got a problem.

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