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Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:00 AM

John Edwards makes little difference in Kentucky

Most voters chose Clinton months ago.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2008 05:16 PM

Big surprise

Fifty-four percent of voters -- a slightly larger share than in West Virginia -- thought that Obama shares the views of Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

So the majority of those who vote for Clinton do so based on blatantly false information. Nice.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 05:20 PM

Values

Damn straight that Obama does not share values with Kentucky voters. Yes, Obama does not value torture, wars, Guantanamo bay, fear-mongering, and a obdurate insistence on remaining disturbingly ignorant. I will bet those Kentucky voters would not be able to locate Iraq on a map. Now that's a exit poll question I'd like to see asked.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 05:20 PM

more dumbographics

the more stupid and white the electorate, the better billary does. God Bless Murka.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 05:34 PM

Hillbillary

Come on, Hillbillary, shut up and slug a whiskey down - hint - this time make it Jack - and shoot off a gun. Them folk luv ya. All is forgiven.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 05:48 PM

Yeehaw!

We've got a real classy bunch of commentators in the War Room tonight!

You people are unbelievable.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 05:51 PM

If only...

...Lincoln had let the South secede from the Union. {sigh}

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 05:51 PM

Get off me, Pa! You're crushing my smokes!

Besides, I have to go vote for Hillary against that half-colored muslim.

Now THAT'S classy!

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 06:18 PM

Salon takes the low road

The headline SHOULD read...

Salon takes the low road
As expected, Salon puts a pro-Hillary spin, and figures out how to passive-aggressively turn Edwards' endorsement of Obama (NOT Hillary) into a downside.

Farhad, looks like you've drunk the Koolaid -- or been told to toe Joan's line till the bitter end -- right along with your cohorts, eh?

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 06:20 PM

The Democrats are a house divided

The fact that Hillary Clinton has swept states like Ohio, Kentucky and West Virginia underscores class divisions within the Democratic party. Poor white people do not view Barack Obama as their hero because they identify him with well-educated, upper middle class liberals. It is because of this association and because of the accompanying stereotype that people like him are simplistically anti-military and pro vegetarian that working class whites don't like him - not because he is black. To poor white people, only snooty rich snobs can afford the luxury of protesting wars and drinking soy milk. Their perception is that these high falutin' liberals just have too much privilege to understand how real people live and too much education to ever gain any real knowledge about anything. It is a pity, because now of all times the Democratic party should be able to count on the votes of this large, disenfranchised group. And yet, this group isn't stupid - these people feel the sting of being called white trash and of being unwanted and ignored by the wealthier, Marxist elite liberals in the party. If Democrats are to win this race, then the leaders of this party must stop trying to market liberalism as a hip, cool fashion statement and instead tout ways in which their progressive platform is better positioned to help all Americans. This is what Clinton has done with her universal health care proposal and her success here should not be overlooked by the Obama campaign, especially if it wants to win over much of the disenfranchised white poor. An emphasis on the improvement of infrastructure, including mass transportation and a position on the military that is both anti-war and pro-military family would also help win over these voters. Leave religion and race out of the conversation entirely; most poor white voters care more about job security, clean water and health care than they do about Jesus and skin color. Appeal to their basic intelligence and quit pandering to their fears and many of these voters will be won over.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 07:27 PM

Gallup Poll: Key Clinton Constituencies Moving Toward Obama

Even the polls are headed for Obama:

At the same time, support for Clinton among some of her traditionally stalwart support groups -- women, Easterners, whites, adults with no college education, and Hispanics -- has fallen below 50%.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/107407/Obama-Surge-Fairly-BroadBased.aspx

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 08:03 PM

Jenny

If you are a real person I have to tell you this....

You are a kook.

Start your own party. Maybe you can start it in your Paw's barn.

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 02:16 AM

Hillary's values

It takes a village (idiot) to believe that Hillary Clinton shares the "values" of Kentuckians or West Virginians. It is a stroke of genius PR on the part of her campaign to "make over" Obama in the image that actually is hers. Unfortunately, I'm sure Lily is right about what those values actually are.

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 05:43 AM

HP

Why am I a kook? Is it because I propose that Obama's loss in Kentucky is more about class than race? Judging from your comments about "my paw's barn" I would say that you carry more than your fair share of regional prejudice as well, and yet, strangely, you think it is perfectly acceptable. I would wager many Democrats from other parts of the country also feel it is acceptable to make fun of poor whites and then arrogantly assume that these same poor whites should want to join a party so contemptuous of their very existence.

I personally will vote for whomever clinches the Democratic nomination, but only because I think a Democratic president will do far less damage than a Republican one. In truth, I don't think that the Democratic party represents me anymore than the Republican party does, and so I don't expect much from them and don't expect my life to improve much at the hands of people who look down on people like me.

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