Letters to the Editor
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Two words
Jor Klein?
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Two words
Joe Klein?
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Well Put
See also David Brooks's column in today's NYT. Maybe we should just airlift crates of Koolaide to Iran and Lebanon. Maybe then Barack could TAKE OVER ZEE VURLD!!!
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Now!
If the Dems could just loudly and publicly take this kind of fight to McCain, we may actually be on to something here.
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It's all they've got
What we have here is a highly intellegent middle aged Senator, and a world class speaker, running on a largely populist platform against an over the hill, fairly average Senator who can't even keep the players straight in a war we've been fighting for 5 years running on on a platform of more of what got us into this mess. The right would try to link Obama to Satan, Joe Stalin, the Armenian genocide and Snidley Whiplash if they thought it would do them any good. It's all they've got left.
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Churchill
If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons: Churchill
Let's not pretend that Churchill always advocated Jaw Jaw instead of War War.
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@Xanthro
If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons: Churchill
Let's not pretend that Churchill always advocated Jaw Jaw instead of War War.
I fail to see how the quote supports your assertion. Great line from Churchill, however.
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Paraphrasing LBJ
"Therefore, Gentlemen, What?"
First off there is no supreme leader in Iran. One would think Klein knows this. There are different factions. There is the Iranian government, there are the Ayatollahs, there is the IRGC. Those groups form a confederacy of powerful groups that don't operate together and often don't communicate with each other. The IRGC often circumvents the Iranian army and operates on its own for example. Unless Obama rapidly gets edumakated in this his speeches about talking will be meaningless nonsense.
And for the record, when/if Obama does drag himself to Tehran to beseech the Pashas, the moment he makes any demands of them at all, there will be a page one diatribe on Salon.com demanding an explanation why Obama has suddenly turned into a puppet of the Jews. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. To you folks, 'discussion' means, "send us your demands and we'll do them, whatever they are, thank you and come again"
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By the by
Iran now has 25% unemployment and 25% inflation. Perhaps running around and threatening genocide is taking their attention away from more practical problems. But no one ever said those morons weren't committed to their ideology above all else. That sounds like a recipe for not getting much accomplished by talking.
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Appeasement.
When Obama offers to Cede the State of Florida to Iran, then I'll be worried... then again, it is Florida...
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Electro Robot, By the By
You make some good points. But doesn't it seem as though America could play a role in fostering an uprising of the youth in Iran by not making itself into a villain with the constant saber rattling?
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What I mean iIs
there is a large number of youth in Iran who have no first hand recollection of the theocratic revolution that took place in Iran. Seems like if the US took a more even handed approach, we could be a true example rather than a constant threat. I just don't think the young people in Iran are truly bent on the rhetoric that the powers in Iran are constantly spewing. We can become something to hope for rather than something to hate.
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About that saber...
Part of the reason it's rattling is that it's kind of worn out, frayed around the edges, tired, rusty and in need of some serious R&R.
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Joe Klein making sense?
Who would ever expect Joe Klein to make sense?
But there he goes. Good points all.
And this points up something that is continually brushed over by most of our news media in their coverage of Ahmedinejad's antics. He is not a powerful figure in Iran. Not only are his powers as president quite limited by Iranian law, he is also deeply unpopular because of his perceived failures in economic policy.
Our media 'elite' once again do the country a great disservice by focusing so much attention on him. But then, they are just doing what they've done consistently for the past eight years, namely, played the sounding board for Bush et al's propaganda machine.
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Neocon Strategy has Delivered Failure
Even Condi Rice and Gates seem to understand that they won't accomplish anything meaningful as long as the strategy remains the same. Of course, when it comes to Obama, the neocons are trying to paint him as clueless on foreign policy. The only question for me is how anyone takes what they say seriously after the continuing debacles that are Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, and Pakistan. Where is their standing to query anyone on policy when their own has so spectacularly failed?
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The writing is on the wall....
These guys know Obama is a shoo-in so they figured they'd better start making sense if they don't to be left without any access.
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Joke Line Receives Updated Information on Side of Bread being Buttered
So, for the past 6 or 7 years, if not more, Joe Klein has been pretending to be a republican. Now that he realizes the neocon era is coming to a sad close, it's time to pretend to support liberals again. Ultimately, Joe Klein only supports one thing: Joe Klein.
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A Time for everything
Let's not pretend that Churchill always advocated Jaw Jaw instead of War War.
But that is the point, isn't it? This bellicose all fight all the time strategy hasn't worked too well unless you are a defense contractor. I want somebody who can talk and fight.
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That is precsely the case to be made
Charles Barkley once said that every player in the NBA, even the worst of the worst, scored 30+ points in HS and was then highest scorer on their college team. His point? "Any knucklehead can score." Real talent, the stars were where they were because they could do everything.
Fact is - I can get any idiot of the street to use military action as options #1, #2, and #3. Any dope can bomb someone. Anyone can climb on rubble with a bullhorn for a photo-op.
What we need is someone to head off disaster, prevent costly wars from starting, and get this country out of Iraq.
There is absoutely, positively NOTHING remarkable about McCain as a presidential candidate. There is no basis for it.