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Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:00 AM

Bush seems to attack Obama

In a speech to Israel's Knesset Thursday, the president equated people who want to negotiate with "terrorists and radicals" with those who wanted to negotiate with Nazis.

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 08:48 AM

Aren't Nazis off limits?

Remember the early comparisons of the Republican call for the Iraq War? Remember the press going wild when any Democrat, no matter how obscure, dared to call Bush a Nazi?

The outrage! The horror! The disrespect of a President!

But being disrespectful only seems to work one way, as usual.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 08:55 AM

Memo to Bush -- you WANT to be succeeded by a Democrat, don't you?

Otherwise, the full blame for your incompetently bungled war will fall directly and solely onto the shoulders of the Republican party. And your only strategy for years has been to hand this off to your successor.

Or do you think that by reverse psychology, your insulting remarks about Obama will improve his chances? That may be true, but I doubt you have the subtlety to think of it.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 08:55 AM

Who would know better...

...about talking to and appeasing Hitler than a member of the Bush family? W's grandfather Prescott is practically the poster boy for American collaboration with the Nazis.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 08:56 AM

Simple-minded rhetoric from a simple-minded president

What a truly small man occupies such a large office at this hour. January 20 can not come fast enough.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 08:58 AM

Appeasing Hitler?

Funny that Bush makes that analogy when his family's fortune was made through financing Nazi corporations during Hitler's reign.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 09:07 AM

Prescott Bush was also ...

Prescott Bush was also alleged to have been involved in the "Business Plot", a conspiracy -- according to General Smedley Butler -- to overthrow the presidency of FDR.

The will of the people doesn't seem to be a concern of this family.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 09:10 AM

Semantics

I like that word "Principled". If the Obama camp distinguished itself more from the Bush camp and its cronies in this manner it would help their campaign. Further, it feels like the Obama campaign can use words like that truthfully, whereas the Bush camp can't. That could prove an effective weapon.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 09:10 AM

Re - Aren't Nazis off limits?

Remember the early comparisons of the Republican call for the Iraq War? Remember the press going wild when any Democrat, no matter how obscure, dared to call Bush a Nazi?

Bush didn't call Obama a Nazi; Bush called him Neville Chamberlain.

Alex - what's with the title "Bush seems to attack Obama" - Bush obviuosly attacked Obama; don't be so damn wishy-washy.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 09:14 AM

Bush's last throws

I heard that bungling fool this morning on NPR mangling tenses again and sounding like a bumpkin moron. Your policy is coming to an end monkey king and your cabinet hoard of chimpanzee worshipers is finally about to be swept away.. Enjoy your legacy and good riddance fool's fool.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 09:21 AM

I guess the point is

That you can talk until your liberal brie munching head explodes. It won't make any difference to an avowed enemy who not only isn't interested, but isn't reliable and openly refuses to comply.

Why limit yourselves to Salon's somewhat uncomfortable relationship with Nazi world view when you can bang the drum for Darfur? What exactly has all our appeasement and well wishing done for those miserables?

Thursday, May 15, 2008 09:22 AM

LOL

Bush is bringing a knife to a gun fight! Both Obama and Hillary could eat his lunch in a debate. Bush should crawl into his Texas Rangers sleeping bag, zip it up tight, and wait for Jan. 21. As Keith Olbermann said the other day, and if you haven't seen it, it's on youtube, SHUT THE HELL UP.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 09:24 AM

Oh Lord!

We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

Oh, Lordy! This from the mouth of the guy who actually played the comparable role to Hitler! When he orchestrated the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq? Violating Principle VI of the Nuremberg Laws? What chutzpah!

As we know (see Ian Kerhsaw's excellent book, Hitler Hubris and Robert Payne's The Life and Death of Adolf Hitler) Hitler used an October, 1939 radio speech to screech about "terror" in neighboring Poland and decent German Frauen being raped by Polish "beasts". There was also the claim of amassing weapons by the poles. Much like the WMD claim vis-a-vis Iraq.

Bush is too bent on casting lame aspersions to note that in any comparisons here HE is the baddie, playing Hitler right down to the speechifying and scare mongering before invading a sovereign state under a vile ruse.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 09:28 AM

And our invasion of Iraq woudl be differnt from Hitler's invasion of Poland

how?

Thursday, May 15, 2008 09:29 AM

I've never felt more strongly

that Electro Robot is an NC State fan. Those guys have the most miserable existence this side of the Atlanta Falcons.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 09:31 AM

Radical is Relative

"terroist and radicals"

I thought Bush was going to Saudi Arabia soon. Has he forgotten that 15 of the 9/11 suicide bombers were from Saudi Arabia. Or has the smell of innocent Iraqi blood fogged up his brain and soul?

And he has forgotten that many people in the middle east and around the world consider Israel and its policies towards the Palestinian some of the more "radical" around.

Bush sure had no problem accepting false pre-war intelligence from some of the most serious right wing radicals our nation has ever been witness to. Doug Feith, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Ledeen, Bolton, Liv and David Wurmser, Richard Perle, etc etc.

Radical is relative

Thursday, May 15, 2008 09:34 AM

@Green Job

I think you're unclear on the concept. Bush referred to Neville Chamberlain, who helped move the Nazi's forward, which means that, in Obamaland, Bush called Obama a Nazi. There are parallels. Cuomo used a phrase that (shuck and jive) that at one time referred to black people in the context of an election in which a black man was participating, therefore he was attacking Obama in a racist way. Ferraro said that Obama was "lucky to be who he was", and Obama is black, therefore Ferraro said that Obama was lucky to be black. Clinton said that Johnson helped MLK pass the Civil Rights Act, therefore she was denigrating MLK as weak and ineffectual.

The facts don't matter in this campaign. It's all about what you can spin the facts to be. Calling Obama a compromiser will damage him - calling him a Nazi damages Bush.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 09:34 AM

Heed the "and radicals" part

Crucially, Bush said " . . . terrorists and radicals." To eventually link Obama with terrorists, Bush must first allude to his radicalism, as supposedly demonstrated by the association with the Rev. Mr. Wright. That leaves it for Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and the Swift Boaters -- among others -- to build a bridge from radicalism to terrorism. They have until Nov. 4 to make the insinuation stick.

That ploy merely hammers at Obama's perceived weakness, his operating outside the Chamber of Commerce all these years. As for attacking his strength, two decades worth of grassroots organizing, look for the Swift Boaters to smear him on that as well. If they can insist that heavily decorated Vietnam War veteran John Kerry is quite the coward, they certainly can plant the notion that Barack Obama was an inept community organizer. And,

say, doesn't "community" form the root of "communist"?

Why is Obama's commendable community organizing a vote-drawing strength? Because it flatly contradicts the notion that he is out of touch with the marginalized.

The attempted smearing of Obama is right out of the Karl Rove playbook. Making it all the

more obvious is Rove's continuing presence as a "consultant" on Fox News.

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