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"it's worth pointing out that Clinton will likely win West Virginia and Kentucky simply because of the advantage she's enjoyed with white working-class voters."
Also worth pointing out that Obama has won some states simply because of his advantage with black voters. Oops! Not allowed to say that...sorry, I'll pay my penance.
A state that has sent a former KKK member back to the US Senate for 943 years in a row won't vote for the black guy.
There's a shocker...
It's a good and noble thing that black voters vote for Obama, unthinkingly. It's an evil racist thing for white voters vote for Hillary unthinkingly.
thank you.
but West Virginians are very proud of which side they were on during the Civil War; their differences with Virginia on slavery are the reason WV exists. While this doesn't give them a pass on systemic racism, the folk there (particularly the Democrats) are no more racist as a group than anyone else. Please stop with the accusations. You are only confirming the talking point that progressives are elitists who don't understand blue-collar culture. There are plenty of reasons that blue-collar whites might support Clinton, and you don't have to go to racism - so why do it, except that you are bigoted against this subculture? It is very unseemly. Please stop.
I didn't know Obama was a pollster. Obama downplays expectations and then outspends Hillary Clinton 3 to 1 every primary. Yes, Clinton is poised to win and she wins a lot of what Obama has to date not been able to take from her. He cannot get blue collar America to rally around him. There is a great divide in this campaign. Obama gets the black vote and Hillary gets the core voters who will show up in November. Obama has a serious problem with white over fifty woman and seniors as well. They don't trust him and in part because he has no record to prove he is worthy. I see a great challenge for Obama and unless it's "vote both", Obama will never close the deal on the Clinton supporters.
This is a political tragedy having two firsts in the same election. We have our first woman and African American. I find that to be so sad because one of the historical candidates will not make history. So as Obama predicts the next six races, no one has a right to tell Clinton to stop because truth be known, neither candidate will have the magic 2025 to win. I think Howard Dean should have seen this problem in MI and FL and allowed the candidates to campaign there and this would have been over long ago.
I just think being the first two minority candidates they should run together not against each other. Why not have the first black president with the first female vice president or vice versa. I am simply afraid that if Obama wins, not all dems are going to vote or vice versa. And if that happens we run the risk of having McCain as president and that is terrifying.
because he will be conceding alot of States in the general election.
Did anyone say that it's evil for white voters to only vote for Hillary? It is understandable, at least for me, that voters in West Virginia and Kentucky, both Southern and both very white, who are democrats, would vote for the white woman over the black man. Whether it's due to racism, conservatism (Clinton is much more familiar to them, and Southerners are nothing if not traditional) or because they agree with her policies more (though the difference between the two are miniscule) that is their right.
It is perfectly okay for pundits to point this out, but I think anyone running for President should be careful not focus too much in their speeches and interviews on demographics.
Obama has never said, I only get black people to vote me. Big City, old school, identity politic campaigning, in my opinion, is really what is killing the Democratic Party. Obama isn't running to be the President of Black America and liberal elite America. But Clinton, however, by pointing out how white folks just love her to death, gives the impression that she is only running to be the president of white working class America. I wish her luck with that.
Also, aren't West Virginia and Kentucky red states who traditionally go Republican anyway? So who cares...isn't that what all the Clinton supporters said when Obama was winning red states?
neither candidate will have the magic 2025 to win.
Obama has more than 1,800 delegates already. Assuming he splits the remaining 100 pledged delegates, he'll only need to win another 100 or so from the supers. The superdelegates may let this race drag on through the end of the primaries but they will end the race after 6/3. At that point, Obama will have beated Hillary in Oregon and Montana and it'll be clear she can't overtake him.
They're voting for Hillary because they're jealous of her gleaming mouthful of teeth.
No one every could convince Archie Bunker of anything.
I had an old maid aunt like that. She had her opinion and that was that.
I have a feeling that these white hicks in WV and Kentucky who would "never vote for a black man" (never mind that he's really "biracial" but these labels are ludicrous) are not the core voters that Hillary thinks they are. She's run a right-wing death machine during her campaign, trying to scare everyone away from Obama. Let them vote Republican in the general election, McCain can have them. Why would anyone want the "racist" vote?
These dumb hicks that she's courting wouldn't vote for a progressive white candidate. Screw 'em (although they did a very good job of screwing themselves, by voting against their interests).
...who will vote for McCain.
Barack Obama is putting together a new group of voters that the Democrats can nurture and build on.
I know what Obama is doing is smart and makes sense, but for the record, I, my husband, and my (white, high-school educated, over 65) mother are all strong Obama supporters. At least two in this group started out supporting Hillary or supported her between Edwards and Obama, but we all will happily cast our vote for Obama now.
From what I can see, many in my Louisville neighborhood feel the same way. So show us some love, Barack!