Letters to the Editor
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I wish you all would quit talking about this
I guess everyone in the media is searching for a story since this is all getting a tad tiring, but seriously stop talking about this windbag. "Operation Chaos" is just another "Talk more about me, make me feel important again, and help inflate my ego even more" campaign. It has no effect in the race.
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isn't this a crime?
I'm sorry, but isn't this a rather flagrant violation of FCC rules/the law?
My understanding of FCC regulations is that one cannot mix political commentary/editorial with any call or attempt to incite action of any kind.
Or am I mistaken?
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One of the things ...
One of the things that makes this complicated to track is the fact that some Republicans are crossing over to vote for Obama ... because they think he'd make a great president.
(There seems to be a fair anecdotal evidence for that, for whatever that's worth. I don't know if there's been any polls about it ... for whatever that would be worth.)
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For what it is worth
My neighbor hood has a lot of Republicans and Democrats living in the same area.
Due to the various political lawn posters different people put up in their years over the years I pretty much know who the republicans and democrats are (at least the ones that like lawn signs).
90% of the folks that always have signs supporting republican candidates have "vote for Hillary" signs in their yards. Most of the democrats don't have any lawn signs out for the primary, (and usually don't).
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They can have their fun
Either candidate will beat McCain, so they should get their laughs while they can.
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Planned Chaos
I listen to Limbaugh occassionally (because I'm masochistic) but also because I try to keep a handle on what all the 'talk' radio goons are saying. I believe that Limbaugh is smart enough to know that with no Republican contest there were going to be a lot of Repubican crossover voters. He simply started calling for it so he would appear that he was having an influence. It also helped him shift the attention away from the egg he got on his face when McCain got the Republican nomination against Rush's all out fight to stop him.
And, Alex, Rush just loves to see and hear himself named or quoted. I wish that you'd just ignore him; however you now may get a mention on his show when he quotes you talking about him.
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meh
I'm also not convinced that this whole thing is having any bearing on the events whatsoever. And even if there were large numbers of Republicans turning out to vote they'd have to be in real big numbers to actually change anything.
I keep thinking of it like trying to rig an online popularity contest with a couple buddies...it's damn, damn hard to do, especially when at the end of the day you really don't care all that much about it anyways.
although the conspiracy theory enthusiast in me would posit that it certainly would explain Clinton's near universal appeal amongst rural voters....
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Let's not forget Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969)
Advocacy of the use of force or of law violation
a. must be directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action, and
b. be such that it is likely to incite or produce such action.
I hope Rush has crappy lawyers and then can get him for this if he's still broadcasting advocating rioting at the Dem convention.
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Rush is always on point
I don't know guys. His Operation Lardass was a success, as was his Operation Addiction and its offshoots, Operation Jail and Operation Hearing-Loss.
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Not ready to igonre this yet
Especially after reading EJ Dionne's April 25 post-mortem on PA:
"One little-noticed finding was that 6 percent of Clinton's own voters said that they would defect to John McCain in the fall against Clinton herself."
Is there some other way of interpreting these numbers that I'm unaware of?
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BitterBucsFan
Actually, that certainly appears to be a gun. and it most definitely is smoking....
huh, that little nugget is certainly an eye opener. I can't think of any other explanation really.
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Clinton campaigned heavily in rural areas
That has been her focus in these states. Rural areas tend to be conservative, but that doesn't mean that everybody who votes in these areas is a Republican. It's not reasonable to promote the "Limbaugh Effect" without also pointing out that a lot of Republicans have showed up at the polls simply for the privilege of voting AGAINST Clinton. Obama's campaign has ignored that and Clinton's probably doesn't want to hightlight the fact that far right wingers see the name "Clinton" as equivalent to "Satan".
Please don't try to spin the numbers away from Clinton based on complete speculation about where the voter's are coming from.
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If rush had crappy lawyers
He'd be in jail right now, serving a mandatory minimum.
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@bearpaw1
And don't forget the Republicans who are crossing over to vote for Obama because they think he will be easier to beat in the general election.
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Really?
It's not reasonable to promote the "Limbaugh Effect" without also pointing out that a lot of Republicans have showed up at the polls simply for the privilege of voting AGAINST Clinton.
Do you have a single shred of evidence to back this up?
We have exit polls from PA that show that 6% of Clinton's "supporters" in the primary plan to vote for McCain. And then we have you, "pointing out," something that it seems like you just made up.
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Get rid of open primaries
Whether Operation Chaos is real or not, it definately shows why open primaries should be abolished. Republicans should not influence who Democrats pick as their nominee and Democrats shouldn't influence the GOP pick. If you want to vote in the other guy's primary change your registration. Its just that simple.
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TX and IN
I have been personally told by Republicans that many are/did cross over for Hillary in both those Democratic Primaries. How big is the effect we do not know, but very unfortunately, it's real.
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Some of this in NC but not registered as Repubs
They don't need Limbaugh for this. They are mostly white males registered as Dem or Unaffiliated and never vote Dem for national senator or president and rarely for statewide races in NC. It sometimes has worked against our Dem candidates. This is their first chance to make a differnce in a presidential primary.
From what I can tell talking to a couple of these in my own family, they were voting for Clinton (registered Dems) and then McCain (who will win NC in the GE). They seem to believe that McCain can beat either one, Clinton because of her high negatives and Obama because they have several things like Wright ready to be used in the general election.
As much as they hate Clinton, they hate Obama even more; their goal is to prolong things a little before Obama wins, and then try to destroy him in the general.