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Tuesday, May 6, 2008 12:00 AM

Will tonight be a "tiebreaker" or a "game changer?"

The candidates' "he said, she said" on the stakes in Indiana and North Carolina.

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Tuesday, May 6, 2008 09:17 PM

Hopefully it will be a "deal-breaker"

...for those superdels still considering supporting HRC.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 09:21 PM

Indiana still "too close to call"

If the massive 3-to-1 Obama edge in the early returns from Lake County (Gary, Indiana, the state's second largest city) holds up for the rest of the county -- so far, as of midnight, only 158 of 559 precincts have reported -- Obama will narrowly pull ahead of Clinton in the Indiana totals. My little spreadsheet predicts statewide totals of 620,000 for Clinton vs. 645,000 for Obama. Maybe it will be a tie-breaker, after all. Hard to imagine even Clinton continuing after a loss in Indiana. (But then, of course, there will be all the mail-in votes to count.)

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 09:30 PM

It is over.

It has been over for sometime.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 09:47 PM

Hmm

Nothing short of a game-changer in favor of Barack. Even the pundits seem to be conceding. The tide is turning. Finally. They threw everything and the kitchen sink at him. Not only is he standing with dignity, but he's winning. He's WINNING! It's a remarkable story.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 09:48 PM

Matthews and Russert think it's over

Chris Matthews and Tim Russert on MSNBC seem to think it's over. I thought it was over quite a while ago, but if those two agree, it must have a long way to go. Seriously, though I don't trust their analysis, it looks like mainstream media opinion will finally come to the same realization as those of us who can do math came to in March. Also, Clinton supporters, I know nights like tonight really suck. So no gloating, at least not from me, except for that "math" remark, which is aimed at the likes of Russert, not at you.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 09:51 PM

Nailbiter

So far, Obama's massive lead in Gary, Ind. has shrunk from 75%-25% to around 60%-40%. If trends hold for the last few precincts in Indiana, the final tally will be a virtual tie, around 625,000 for Clinton to 624,000 for Obama. Clinton might squeak through with a win, but it's hardly the decisive victory her campaign was counting on. Meanwhile, Obama's big lead in North Carolina give him a nice majority in total "popular vote" tallies for all primaries, even counting Florida and Michigan for Clinton. The contest looks over to me.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:03 PM

Elderly Nuns turned away from polls in IN

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24490932/

Nuns in their 80's and 90's turned away because they had old ID's.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:07 PM

That Clinton email

Was sent so that weak journalists would repeat it as fact.

How did you do in that regard?

Are you an intern?

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:09 PM

Obama's Dignity

Tonight is a game-changer. Obama is, has reintroduced successful dignity to campaigning. America needs and deserves this.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:29 PM

El-Hady story

Why is the mainstream media (and Salon.com) ignoring the El-Hady story out for several days in the alternative media?

El-Hady was director of a charity the government accused of funneling money to Hamas, and its founder is a well-known supporter of terrorists. El-Hady has now turned his talents to fund-raising for Obama and had a page on Obama's official website until a few days ago when the story broke.

Why is the media hiding this information which will kill the dems' chance at winning the general election if Obama wins the nomination? You have a duty to report this story while we still have time to choose Hillary.

From the US Treasury website confirming this story is true:

http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/js4058.htm

A summary of the story:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=62653

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:31 PM

Apologies to the author

That was a bit harsh on my part - but I always criticized members of the MSM who blindly repeat the talking points of the GOP. So I am a sell-out unless I do it in all cases.

Here is the thing - this is a devastating loss for Hill in NC and a supreme letdown in IN. So, anything coming in now is spin.

If Hill gets $10MM in donations tomorrow you'll see nasty attack ads in WV. If she gets $3MM she'll start paying off her debts and ease out.

See, politics really is all about money...

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:34 PM

Laurie

Here is why - because you are a koo-koo! Koo-koo for cocoa puffs.

You support a man who was tortured in Vietnam, who now enables our nation to torture others.

Koo-koo!

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:35 PM

@HP

So what then, now you expect Barack to be held accountable by people who donated money to his campaign? Jeremiah Wright not good enough a smear-job for you so now you want to associate Hamas with him? Are you kidding me?

What bullshit. No self-respecting journalist would peddle this crap.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:37 PM

El-Hady story

Isn't it typical of Obama-aid drinkers that if they cannot refute something, they resort to insults as HP does.

If you think this story is nothing, why did Obama remove his page from his website? If you think this story is nothing, then why are the media refusing to cover it?

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:42 PM

El-Hady story

"So what then, now you expect Barack to be held accountable by people who donated money to his campaign? Jeremiah Wright not good enough a smear-job for you so now you want to associate Hamas with him? Are you kidding me?"

Um, yes, aren't all politicians held accountable to their supporters and fundraisers? Isn't that why Obama is criticizing Clinton for taking money from the health care industry? If she is suspected of being influenced by the health care industry, why wouldn't Obama be influenced by Hamas supporters who have donated to his campaign? See how that works?

This is huge.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:43 PM

@HP

Speaking of spin, you're really being dishonest. According to the Obama campaign's spreadsheet from last February, he should have won Indiana by 7% and was ahead before PA. Instead, Hillary managed to win Indiana by 2%. He was supposed to win and consistently led in North Carolina by more than 20% though it closed a bit after PA, and ended up with 14 despite his huge advantage in campaign cash and demographics right up his alley. Up next - Hillary is slated to win the in Kentucky and West Virginia by 20-30 points.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:44 PM

A simple analogy

The El-Hady story is like being condemned for having a Friend in your Myspace friends list when your myspace friends list is several million people. Take a look at the page of "El-Hady". It's just like a myspace page! Nobody can hold Barack accountable for that, it's beyond ridiculous. Grasping at straws.

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