Letters to the Editor
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Wheels come off the front-runner's chariot
Face it, Obama sucks as a GE candidate.
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A win is a win
Unless it's in Texas. Then it's a win for a while. Then not a win.
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Faux News called it first
...with only about 2,000 votes in. MSNBC called it abot 5 minutes later. Does John Ellis still work at Fox?
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To HRC supporters
In the immortal words of Chris Farley - Whoopdee Freakin' Doo. If it's not a huge margin (like it was predicted on her behalf a month ago)it's over on pledged delegates and popular vote. She then needs superdelegates to chose her with her 54% negative ratings and 8% support of African Americans over the otherwise winner. Senator Clinton lost this race three months ago, and the death of her campaign is a lingering one. How does she win first)the nomination and second) the general election?
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Goalpost now on 30 yard line
TOUCHDOWN!
right.
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Wooohooo, Hillary
Oh, come off it, you sour grapes Obamaites. A win is a win is a win is a win, especially if it's another big-state win where the loser has outspent the champ either 4-1 or 3-1. Hillary ain't quittin', nor should she, and neither are her millions of supporters. Madame President...ah, now that has a nice ring to it, eh?
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All numbers not in but
It should never have been this close. 20+% just 6 weeks ago. It should never have been this close.
I just don;t quite get why she loses so much ground every time Obama campaigns in a state. I really don't. Why can't she hold onto those leads? If i was a Hillary supporter it would probably bother me and piss me off a bit too.
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By how much? In a state tailor-made for her
If she can't win by more than this in a state with a 60% female electorate, basically all old people and blue collar workers by more than this she's in trouble.
And she can't come out to talk right now because she's on the phone begging for more money.
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Just a matter of time
A win is a win is a win yes, except when you lose in the end. This is a battle in a bigger war, and no matter how she and her campaign spin it, the numbers, unlike her, don't lie or "spin" themselves.
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So what's the next firewall state?
Sure won't be NC, too many darkies. Kentucky? Guam?
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Yawn.
Anyone who looked at the demographics knew this was coming six weeks ago. Just as anyone who looks at the delegate numbers know it's been over since Wisconsin, regardless of the ultimate PA margin.
Maybe May 6. Maybe June 3. Either way, Barack Obama is our nominee, and he'll make an excellent one. And I must say, I'm looking forward to the general election.
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Not looking good for McCain
He's essentially running unopposed and I still haven't heard a single network call it for him.
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????
NC has had a SINGLE statewide Black office holder since Reconstruction. He was voted out in 2004. Obama may carry Chapel Hill, Durham, Orange county and part of Charlotte but Clinton will carry the rest of the state.
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Amazing...Obama never said he'd win the state
But his 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 spending seems to have diminished her margins significantly. Its crazy. And since its all about delegates that matters.
I don't think a 6 percent or even 10 percent margin is enough to claim she's more electable. She LOST 10-15% in six weeks. What the supers need to ask is why. IF its the outspending, does this mean than in the GE she would be at risk of losing voters IF McCain somehow was able to outspend her? Its odd.
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Go Hillary, Go!
Obama is a great speaker and he's handsome and charming. Nothing in his policy briefs tells me that he'd be a reformer in any way. Hillary's actually got a C.V., a better grasp and has more well formed issues. Obama is backed by lobbyists and Wall Street predators. Plus we're betting on a guy's "learning curve" for the biggest offcie we've got? People are wising up -- this isn't American idol, it's the Presidency! Maybe it's too late for her, but still.
And for all of you who say that Hillary had a 20 point lead in the polls a month ago and now she won by a smaller margin so somehow that's an Obama victory, I say this to you: no one f*cking voted a month ago! They voted today and she won. Period. And she's won more of the the critical swing states that we will need in order to defeat McCain in the general election.
(Added bonus today: seeing all the whiny Obama supporters in here act like crybabies)
Go ahead, flame me.
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Oh, come off it
Look, there's absolutely no getting around the fact that Obama has won only ONE big state in this game - his home turf, IL. Obama's lead in the popular vote can be boiled down to his advantage in one county and that's Cook and that's synonymous with Chicago. C'mon, give it up - for Hillary supporters, there'll be no tears tonight but instead, a lot of champagne corks popping - yah!
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tennis, anyone?
Tim Russert just resorted to a tennis metaphor.
What's next, cricket?
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Exit polls are holding
Cross posted in the other thread:
If the exit polls hold their margins, Clinton wins 52-48.
Latest numbers (MSNBC source):
Gender
Category % Total Clinton Obama
Male 42 46 53
Female 58 56 44
0.4% 99.6% 51.8% 47.8%
Age 65 & over
Category % Total Clinton Obama
18-64 77 50 50
65 or over 23 60 39
0.2% 99.8% 52.3% 47.5%
Total family income:
Category % Total Clinton Obama
Less than $50,000 40 54 45
$50,000 or more 60 51 49
0.4% 99.6% 52.2% 47.4%
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Any superdelegate who votes for Obama now is helping his or her party
commit suicide in the GE. It really couldn't be clearer. Swing voters, from working class whites to older voters to Latinos, have not hopped on the Obama bandwagon, and they are the groups most likely to defect to McCain in November. Moreover, Clinton's campaigning--and his own mindless stumbles--have poisoned the water with those groups now, probably irrevocably.
I love the Democratic party--it is almost unbelievably stupid and self-destructive.
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Just holding on
The bottom line is that Hillary managed to hang on. She started with a huge lead and managed to do just enough to hang on to a majority. The pundits can talk all they want about Barack not being able to put it away, but that is just the their normal idiocy. Clinton hasn't shown she can win a state yet. Her victories have just been her surviving long enough to keep just enough of her initial lead to carry the state. Obama has consistently cut way into her massive leads. An election is not something you can "put away", it is something you can either slowly win or quickly lose. Obama has been slowing winning and Clinton hasn't yet slipped enough to lose it.
I will say this idea that Clinton should get the nomination because Barack hasn't sealed the deal is just mind-numbingly stupid. Why should the person who has consistently won votes and raised massive amounts of money be pushed aside in favor of someone who hasn't done anything but barely hold on? I know the Joe Scarborough's of the world will put forth that kind of idiocy, but really. . .
Many will also undoubtedly argue that this is yet another big state Obama can't win, but as has been mentioned before narrowly losing a state in the democratic primary doesn't say anything about losing a state in the general election. Obama, if he gets the nomination, should have no problem winning the major democratic strongholds come November.