Letters to the Editor
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I don't find the ad offensive...out of context
I can't stand Clinton (I have no idea what her principles are, given that she tries to play all sides of all fences), but this ad is a fair encapsulation of her campaign: she's experienced and it's a tough job. Fair enough.
But the question is how does the person behind this ad plan to approach this world? From ABC:
"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president we will attack Iran," Clinton said. "In the next ten years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
http://www.abcnews.go.com/WN/Vote2008/story?id=4698059&page=1
Seems to me that Clinton would exacerbate the problems she highlights rather than mediate them. That, or she's willing to play neo-con to win PA votes. Either way, I have no idea how different from Bush she will be (other than better spoken). That's a problem.
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What it realy shows
This Ad is not well done. What it really shows is that Hillary does not have the money to hire a good Ad agency to create a decent political AD. However, I guess the days a good advertising are gone anyway.
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@ xufapemu
Okay. You mention the male backlash after NH, but to what do you actually attributed this male backlash?
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Clinton cannot appeal to hope
Being part of the Establishment, she has nothing to offer Americans but more fear.
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What does an Executive (aka President) do again?
And please don't credit Obama with running a great campaign. If you want to vote for the man who ran Obama's campaign, [..]
Executives find people who are good at their jobs. If they are smart and confident executives they find people who are better at the needed skills then they are. They set the agenda. They delegate. They monitor results and make adjustments. We could flip your statement around and say the only reason that Hillary hasn't won is because of Mark Penn. But I don't think that's credible.
Here's a less than flattering view of Clinton campaign internals by Michelle Cottle: http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=54d3af5a-abde-4874-9d98-2bc4b8e23185
I'm not familiar with her bais, overt or not, but it's certainly food for thought for any Alexrod versus Penn comparisons.
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Be Kind to My Friend AKA Smith...
AKA loves Hillary. And why not?
Hillary Clinton absorbed all that presidential experience -- and by osmosis no less! She's vetted! She's ready on day one!
She's been beaten to a pulp by the media, the Republicans, impeachment proceedings, public humiliation, standin' by her man -- AND SHE EVEN WENT THROUGHS SNIPER FIRE -- and she's still coming back for more. THAT's tough! Thick skin IS, after all, a major presidential qualification.
So Hillary Clinton voted with the Republicans to authorize war...that just means she's TOUGH. She's ready to go to war. On Day One. Maybe even Iran. Or Syria. Who knows? Maybe she'll even lead the troops herself. She has all that experience dodging snipers and all! She can do it. Yes She Can!
As for the kitchen, you KNOW she can take the heat. And believe me ....talk to any 60 year old post-menopausal -- THEY KNOW HEAT!!!
So lay off my pal AKA Smith...because it's hard not to love Hillary!!
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That's an attack ad? Obama people, relax.
Gee whiz, is everyting single thing that Clinton does a personal attack on Obama? For such a hotly contested nomination process, that was a pretty benign ad if you ask me.
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Overt
Open; observable; not hidden. Smith, is English your first language? Get a goddamn dictionary. Sexism obviously does exist, but it's primarily invidious, insidious, and hard to define, except in egregious cases. In other words, twit, it's sexism that IS overt. Just like Hillary, ass backwards.
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is not
is not overt. duh. disproved my own case. low blood sugar, or forehead, or something.
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Smith
Take a flyin' fuck at the moon.
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@ AKA Smith
Just before the NH primary Hillary made appeals to women. When she showed emotion after the question of how she gets up everyday, women responded very positively.
The problem is, what made more appealing to women, or made women come to her defense turned some men away from her.
I'm not condoning sexism or rationalizing it, I'm simply saying its a reality and her campaign has never been able to neutralize it to the extent that Obama's has.
President Clinton says that they've never complained about rough treatment, but it isn't true. And in the end SNL did her no favors.
Like the first of anything (Jackie Robinson is a good example) the first female or black candidate must take every slight, every sexist or racist dig and never bring it up. Mr. Clinton said "the boys were tough on her". Imagine if Michelle Obama said "the white people were tough on him". When asked about the sexism or racism, the trailblazer must minimize it, not use it as an excuse for failure; even if it is the reason.
Mrs. Clinton needed to be as gender neutral as possible. Obama's campaign understood this from the beginning concerning race. Mrs. Clinton's campaign never really seemed to grasp this.
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Also @ AKA Smith
Obama may criticize the media, but he has not blamed it on race.
Again, the Clinton campaign made the media criticism on the basis of gender and sexism.
That hurt her in ways her campaign could ever know.
Try to imagine if the Obama campaign said the ABC was asking him "gotcha" questions because the media is inherently racist.
How do you suppose that would effect his campaign?
I assume you're a woman. If so, you might be looking at the issue of sexism through that prism. Change it to race and you may get a sense of how identity politics have hurt Mrs. Clinton's campaign.
The problem is, for her, its too late in the game to change perceptions.
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@xufapemu
The Obama campaign IMMEDIATELY repudiated the remarks of those soldiers re Hillary laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknowns. No campaign can control what supporters may say. The character test comes from how the campaigns respond.
these 3 military guys were rounded up and brought together for a conference call from the obama headquarters so they could moralize about the sniper fire flap. the obama campaign obviously intended them to say just the sort of things they said.
*then* his campaign repudiates the statements, thus drawing even more attention to said statements. nice!
that's pure cynical politics at its tacky best.
obama is being put to the test right now about whether his new brand of politics is new or just a clever version of old, and he's not passing it. he's throwing bombs everywhere he can all over pennsylvania. clinton's doing it too, no doubt, but the challenges for him are only going to get much worse when he faces mccain. and then bitter political fights if he's elected. when does he start practicing what he preaches? once he's out on the speaker circuit post-presidency?
