Letters to the Editor
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A liar, lies. that's what they do.
She's a liar. It leads one to believe that her rhetoric, which relies solely on what she would do for the middle class and the poor if elected, is just that: Rhetoric. She's probably lying about all of it or at least doesn't expect to accomplish any of her goals in a meaningful way once elected. One needs to look no farther back than her pledge to create/bring 200,000 new jobs to Western Yew York if she were to be reelected. She's blaming this failure on Bush. She's a bad bet folks. A bad bet....
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How soon before Salon blames it all on sexism?
EOM
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McCain honest and trustworthy???
The Democrats better stop fighting between each other and focusing on the free pass McCain is getting.
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The perception is wrong but it is there
How many supporters of Senator Obama posting here believe, like the majority of those polled, in John McCain's honesty?
Senator Clinton's "dishonesty" and Senator Obama's "inexperience" were always going to be part of the GOP's talking points in the next election as these are the easiest things to base attacks on. The Democratic primaries just pushed the meme to the forefront sooner as each candidates' supporters, if not the candidates themselves, pushed the same points.
I suspect if the poll asked questions about being "experienced enough to be President" that the numbers would be about the same but favoring Senator Clinton instead of Senator Obama. Unfortunately, McCain's probably ahead in both scenarios in the perception of many Americans.
Don't forget that voters believing things that aren't true is what gets Republicans elected. Both Democratic candidates and their supporters need to do a better job of defining McCain as both less honest and less capable of being President.
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whoah....
People are doubting the honesty and trustworthiness of Hillary Clinton? How can that be? I must say, I am beyond shocked. (*wink)
Sorry for being a smart-ass, but no one could be surprised by these poll numbers...not even Hillary.
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So Hillary's lie WAS critical - and ignored by Salon
I see from the headline that Joke Walsh is writing about "bitter-gate" again as Salon is "all over" that non-story just as they were the Wright saga (I've stopped reading her - she seems ala Rush and Bill to equate flash with substance). But it was Walsh who went on CNN and said Salon was "all over" the Bosnia lie (not a 'misstatement' as Salon writers are apparently order to call it) when in fact they did virtually nothing when it was front page every place else. Walsh even said on TV that the Bosnia lie was no big deal - now it seems that in fact Wright and bitter are no big deals - but Hillary's Bosnia lie turned out to be the final blow. Walsh's yellow journalism in support of Hillary these last couple of months has forever tarred Salon. The Clinton campaign isn't the only sinking ship. So is Salon's credibility - thanks to Walsh.
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YIKES!!
Now that Obama's Penn defeat is going to be much uglier than expected, courtesy of his racist, out of touch and racist remarks on the American working class made behind close doors to his San Francisco donors as a way to explain why he is not going to win in Pennsylvania and Indiana and probably in North Carolina. Salon, CNN, Huffington, Kos and other Obama news outlets and brain washing sites are bringing out the heavy artillery.
Good luck with that!
But you know, those bitter, gun loving, religion clinching, racist and xenophobe working class americans couldn't care less about what manipulated polls, fanatical blogs and unbalanced and editorialized news have to say. Just like those in New Hampshire, or California, or Massachusetts.
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@SobeOne
are you talking about the same Obama news outlets that have incredibly equated a poor choice of words by Obama to outright lies by HRC and to repeated gaffes by McCain on the economy and Iraq?
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Trouble for HR Clinton? You don't say!
Wait, so you mean to say the conduct of HR Clinton's campaign, and her conduct as a candidate, have left the majority of voters with a bad feeling about Clinton? Wow. And here I thought she'd be able to get away with doing whatever she liked without consequences, as her supporters expect (and get embittered and hostile when people don't flock beneath the banner of Queen Inevitable). And then this bit...
Her advisers' efforts to deal with the problem -- by having her acknowledge her mistakes and crack self-deprecating jokes -- do not seem to have succeeded.
That's too, too funny, and is so HR Clinton. "If you admit to mistakes and make jokes at your own expense, people will trust you." Hahah -- that's the biggest joke of all. Try this, instead: run an honest candidacy, be an honest candidate.
It's telling that she's tried every trick in the book in this campaign, and even now, with the sun setting on this benighted candidacy, they're still not getting IT, thinking they can con their way across the finish line.
Good riddance to a bad campaign. Honesty gap? How about a Trust Deficit? That's more like it.
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"misstating what occurred"
Is that another way of saying total baldfaced lie? One of dozens?
I thought I disliked Clinton for her evident total lack of personal integrity and shameless dishonesty (among other things) but thanks to Salon I've realized that misogyny is the only possible explanation.
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She Needs To Be Honest
Like Barack Applewhite.
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Who is to Blame?
Clinton is. That's the real kicker. The ersatz outrage against Obama pointing to the Clinton admin's poor legacy on trade. The fact that the record was even worse than Obama stated. The hesitance to release documents related to her tenure as First Lady or years of tax returns. The patently, demonstrably false Bosnia claim. The, again, alleged outrage at a close advisor selling her campaign out..and then he's only demoted?!! Come again Hillary?!
The only caveat is that her husband and her close advisors have sent Hillary Clinton on this trajectory and they will have to shoulder the blame when she loses the nomination.
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The sniper lie
The reason why the sniper lie was so bad was that she claimed that when she was First Lady she was sometimes sent to places that were too dangerous for the President to go to, and yet Bill Clinton had been to that very same air base only two months before the Hillary trip!!!
That is what undermines her credibility.
Her claims to have played a leading role in the Northern Ireland settlement have been poo-pooed by those who actually did.
Prior to this election campaign, even though I prefer Obama to Clinton, I would gladly have accepted that Hillary has always been Bill's political partner and a close advisor, and I would have assumed that she was involved in many issues behind the scenes.
These revelations about the Bosnia visit and about the Northern Ireland peace process now make me question whether her First Lady experience ought to be counted in her resume at all.
Bill's claim that she is 60 years old and was tired make things even worse, because you don't want this forgetful old lady answering that hot line phone at 3:00 a.m. when she is no more capable of differentiating reality from fantasy than Ronald Reagan was at knowing his film roles from reality.
Add to this her crummy vote on the Iraq war and her continued failure to address the points made by Obama in his well-known anti Iraq war speech, and she does not look like much of a leader.
