Letters to the Editor
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Yes
There is a poll which shows Hillary gaining big in Pensylvania since the bitter flap.
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No there isn't
Quinnipac shows her as up 6 points. The same margin she was before the flap. SUSA shows her up 14 points, an actual loss of 6 percent support. Gallup shows Obama up 11% nationally.
These are the 3 main polls everyone's been using all campaign season. They're also the most accurate.
You cannot deny fact simply by wishing it as so. She is NOT gaining in any major polls. If she is please provide them.
They either a) do not exist or b) are some minor county poll no one's heard of. My guess is you don't even have that much. There are simply NONE, zero major polls that show her gaining. Period. To deny fact is folly.
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1 more week
and our left-wing pissing match will hopefully be over.
Then we can focus on what really matters- getting the White House back in November.
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@Xrandadu, re: Notorious W.E.S.
Xrandadu wrote: "My god, WES. I rarely insult people, but you are such a loser. What are you going to do when Clinton finally bows out? Smear your crap on walls?"
Oh, X, this one is easy. WES will go back to editing Salon...
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Yes...there are polls showing...
Yes, there is also some credible analysis by CQ that shows that after all is said and done, Hillary will pick up about three delegates...which, to paraphrase Andrew Sullivan...is probably why her campaign is doing John McCain's work for him as they've got nothing left save for verbal slip-ups to throw back at Obama.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002703375
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@libertyson
Stop playing. Anybody can go to RCP compilation and look at the polls and graph and see the clear uptick in support in PA for Clinton. She's currently at +8.4%. As I said, momentum is headed in her direction.
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About W.E.S.
Xrandadu wrote: "My god, WES. I rarely insult people, but you are such a loser. What are you going to do when Clinton finally bows out? Smear your crap on walls?"
Oh, X, this one is easy. WES will go back to editing Salon...
-- AncientAssyrian
When all is said and done WES will vote for Obama ad live happliy ever after. I know
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Very few are offended.
They were constantly told that they should be offended, but many saw the truth in Sen Obama's words.
Maybe it was because it appeared McCain and Clinton were teaming up on a Democrat.
Maybe, it was Mrs. Clinton's words that Democrats are seen as elitist; and that she Hillary Clinon, lately of Chappaqua, graduate of Wellesley College and Yale Law School, the former First Lady, Senator from Ney York, and reader of books during football games, is just the person to change that perception.
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Hopefully...
...the Clintons will be gone in a week or two.
Then Obama can turn his attention to taking apart McStain's bullshit military prowess/ foreign policy experience meme while bringing to the forefront his lack of knowledge of the economy and his shameful Senate voting record. Goodbye Bullshit Express
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News from Indiana
Just released LA Times/Bloomberg polls shows Obama ahead now:
"the poll found Clinton trails Obama by 5 points in Indiana"
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"The survey found the New York senator leading Barack Obama by just 5 percentage points in Pennsylvania"
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"In North Carolina, an Obama stronghold, he is running 13 points ahead."
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-poll16apr16,0,794499.story
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@Flatbolnde
You might want to review your link again. They are doing a projection of 103 of the 187 delegates. 29 delegates are superdelegates and 55 will be awarded based on the popular vote split.
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KStone...
You are correct. A little bit of over zealotry on my part. Thanks.
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@MadamF...
madamfauntleroy writes...
"When all is said and done WES will vote for Obama and live happily ever after. I know</>
I don't know. Are you sure? I'm an Obama supporter from day one, I can't say I appreciate Hillary's selling points, but in the general election, if, Hell has frozen over and Hillary is in fact the nominee, I will vote for her. Not with any gusto or excitement, but with conviction that I am doing what I have to do to prevent McCain from being elected.
WES...ah, our WES is another story entirely. WES may truly do a "cut off my nose to spite my face" on this one, if we are to believe the fanatical rantings...
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Thanks!
W.E.S. says:
Right. Obama has gone from doing better against McCain than Hillary to the same or even worse in some polls and in some states.
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One more time very s..l..o..w..l..y.....How come you are only looking at polling of democrats to determine whether Obama has been hurt?
So you admit that Clinton's negative campaigning is not helping her one bit in the pursuit of her stated goal of winning the Democratic nomination, but it is working towards what many claim is her real goal: to ensure that if she does not win, Obama cannot win either.
Do you wonder why people dislike Clinton's campaign so much? All of her mudslinging is hurting her image as well as Obama's, but McCain is escaping any scrutiny for the time being. Small wonder that he is faring relatively well in the GE polls.
(And it's worth noting that Al Gore was 17 points behind George W. Bush in the Summer of 2000. He managed to capture the popular vote that November.)
BTW, some advice for your method of debate. Calling people "dummies" only serves to make you look like an ass, esp. when your arguments themselves are not terribly sophisticated.
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The WESter
I believe he has said that he will vote for Obama in the general.
Too lazy to search for it just right now.
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@Fester... Re: WES's party loyalty
Ok...I believe it.
But hey, that's good.
Even if WES will be the one shuffling all depressed into the voting booth, nose clamped shut by a giant clothespin -- as long as it's a vote in the D column, I'll put up with all the insane, fanatical Hillary-worship and Obama-bashing till then.
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AncientAssyrian
WES ain't so bad. His one line zingers are far more edible than the pages of rants by you know whos. They have been uncharacteristically absent for a while. Maybe they have morphed into something else OR they have been taking their meds.