Letters to the Editor
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Jesus Christ Salon
Why not come out and run stories everyday asking: Can Americans vote for a black man?!? This is fucking ridiculous! How low will you go? I had forgotten Obama was a smoker until Koppelman reminded me. He thinks it doesn't matter, but he thinks it's worth blog time. Has he covered "The Family" and Clinton? Has he covered Clinton being fired for unethical behavior while on Watergate committee? I'm not even advocating that these stories define Clinton, but if you think the smoking issue is worth the time, than certainly these Clinton stories are worth the time.
I want to see the story: "Bill Clinton -- cigar in the vagina -- young intern and old uber-supervisor -- blow job while on the phone with Senators. Actually, I don't want to see that. I don't think it means shit. But if was Obama's wife getting oral sex from an intern it would be on Salon 24/7.
We already have Fox News. Since Obama is almost certainly going to be the Democratic nominee, does Salon realize how their archives are going to look as we all suck John McCain's flaccid cock?
I am sorry for being so crass, folks. As many know I'm not given to this kind of post. But this is just uncalled for. Smoking is dumb, but I'd rather have a plumber who smokes than one who doesn't know how to fix my pipes.
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"...if it means damaging others with (habitual dishonesty), I haven't seen in Obama yet to indicate that he has"
Oh yes he has! He damaged the Clintons with the false racist meme. He let his surrogates loose on them to make out the slightest thing they said to be racist when it was not. He knows the Clinton's are not racist. Nothing in their history indicates that they are racist, yet he and his supporters did everything that they could to smear the Clintons as racist. I was called racist here at Salon merely because I said I did not trust Obama.
Well, I don't trust him. He is no better than his opponents. He has shown a cynical propensity to use gender sexism and to race bait the Clintons. It is a despicable display that his supporters refuse to admit because they did not care what was said about Clinton to damage her so long a their Golden Boy was winning. That's hypocrisy of the worst sort, to claim the high road while taking the low road. At first, I was almost taken in by him, but then I caught on. Do I hate Obama? No. He is just another cheap conniving politician, worse than the others because he was packaging himself as sooo much better, an entirely different brand.
Doloresflower, cynicism is not hope. Cynical manipulations are not honest. Smearing his opponents is not the high road when he is tarring people with the taint of racism. Disgusting is what it is.
I will never forget it. I will never forgive it. If I had to bet money, I would bet it is the single most compelling reason why Hillary Clinton keeps on keeping on. Obama made this particular fight and now he will have to bear the consequences.
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I cannot believe you posted this story!
I already commented on the ABC & Jake Tapper site about just how STUPID this "story" is. He "smelled" smoke because he has a sensitive nose? For the friggin love of almighty GOD find something important to talk about..because we all know that the news is so lacking in important story information. DAMN! People are actually on here saying the dumbest crap I have ever heard about CIGARETTE smoking when we have a President who is an admitted DRUNK and got a DUI and couldn't tell the truth if his balls were on fire BUT this is what Salon considers news-worthy? @$%#*&$%@...AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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Furthermore, doloresflower:
Hitchens has had it in for the Clinton's forever. While I admire the way he puts words together I cannot say that I admire him as a person. A friend of mine (conservative and actual member of the Starr Committeee) actually dined at his house on more than one occasion. Hitchens had serious problems with alcohol at the time. My friend, also a writer, may have been a bit jealous of Hitchens' literary ability, but he was probably telling the truth about his assessment of his character. He didn't think much of him. Hitchen was deep in plotting against the Clintons way back then during the investigation.
In your link, Hitchens -- losing it in excessive vitriol -- uses as his main source an author who did a hatchet job on the Clintons. Let us look at a telling quote:
The key factor in Bill's policy reversal was Hillary, who was said to have "deep misgivings" and viewed the situation as "a Vietnam that would compromise health-care reform."
The key word is Vietnam. Anyone who thinks a war is a potential Vietnam has every right to have doubts about. As to the health care reform, I remember that Hillary was rather high-handed but I don't think for a moment that she could have gotten universal health care passed at that time no matter what she had tried. Just last month, I heard an expert in health care say pretty much the same thing on NPR. As a matter of fact, he still doesn't think it can be done. However, that is no reason to stop trying. People die in this country for lack of health care. I know dead people who died for that reason, Dolores.
Perhaps it will come as no surprise to you that I think that health care here on the domestic front is more important than any foreign entanglement, no matter how worthy. I am sick of war. The whole nation is sick of war. I see little justification to ever go to war. I was disappointed that Hillary voted for the Iraq War but I do believe both her and Obama when they say that they intend to end it.
I want to see a president who will pay attention the welfare needs of Americans, to our infrastructure, to solving our energy problems, to dealing with and solving the problem of the recession that we are currently in that no one likes to acknowledge because they are afraid of the R word and will probably remain afraid of the R word until we have cause to worry about the D word. Hillary is not afraid to use the R word. I want to see anything that can be done for health care done. I want to see insurance reform that requires that mental health be treated as having parity with physical health coverage. I want to see better schools. I want to people who are truly poor -- black, brown, white and others -- given a chance to crawl out of the hell hole so many of them live in. I want us to stop pretending to see homeless people and start do something about our nation's homeless crisis that has become chronic and will only get worse with the current foreclosure crisis. I want to see a better more human United States and then we can worry about the rest of the world.
I am pretty much a Social Democrat and far to the left of either Obama or Clinton, but I am a pragmatist. About war, color me pacifist.
Obama is unlikely to win. For that reason above all others, I want to see Hillary as a nominee. I sincerely believe she stands a better chance against McCain. I am so sick of liberals her underestimating McCain. Such fools!
