Letters to the Editor
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Equal Pay for All Lecturers
The Clinton campaign was right, Senator Obama was not a University of Chicago Law Professor. I hope all lecturers in Univ. of Chicago departments line up for equal pay as the full professors.
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ineptitude and trivial pursuit
the klinton kamp is in flames, and its toadies spend the day parsing lecturer v professor. My father was a college professor, but he called himself a teacher. His students called him professor. this ludicrous and childish nit picking is the unmistakable sign of desperation. It is indisputable that Obama has a first rate legal mind, far better than Rodham's. Resume padding is hardly the ground Billary wants to wage her fratricidal war upon. 35 years of experience: let's add it up. Seven years on the board of Wall Mart. Eight years working for an all white corporate law firm. sixteen years being the wife of an executive. Weak. Feeble. Pitiful. And you lackeys want to man up about the distinction between lecturer, adjunct, professor, full professor, or lawn jockey. Idiots. What do you think his students called him? Lecturer Obama? My ass. And yours.
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Absolutely pathetic
The surest sign of a weak and unworthy academic is one who draws sharp distinction in conversation between tenured faculty and non-tenured. I live in a large university town and have known numerous tenured professors who could neither write nor argue their way out of a paper bag....that is, unless the argument were about the difference between them and their fellow faculty in the eyes of the university.
The man taught significant courses in a significant manner at a significant university. That university says it's o.k. for him to use the title of professor. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? If Hillary can't deal with this, she will NEVER accomplish anything as president.
The extreme desperation of Clinton and her supporters is getting tiresome. I used to have a measure of respect and would have voted for her...not now.
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Geoff Randall called it
=====Geoff Randall said:
Obama has a bad week based on some news cycles about his pastor. While the issues raised aren't necessarily substantive, Obama gives a major and courageous speach addressing the issue and racism in general.
Clinton has a bad week based on some news cycles about her inflated, and un-true claims about a trip to Bosnia. Once again, the issues aren't necessariy substantive. Clinton's response:
- deny she lied, claim she "misspoke", debate the meaning of "is"
- mention Obama's previous bad week in an attempt to deflect attention
- launch mature "I know you are but what am I" attack against Obama.
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Geoff, you've beautifully encapsulated why I have done a 180 on Clinton vs. Obama. I voted for Hillary in the California primaries on Super Tuesday, believing her to be the best candidate. This is no longer the case. You can really measure the performance and character of someone by how they do under fire, and Hillary has, so far, come way short of Obama's taking a bad situation and using it as an opportunity to create something positive.
Obama really should be given credit for at least trying to elevate the discourse in an atmosphere of poisonous politics that has become more and more toxic and divisive in the past 20 years, peaking under the fetid reign of Rove and Bush. Hillary can't get out of the muck, and I really doubt she'll be able to get things done in a divided Congress. I think Obama will be able to bring ideas and champion sorely needed policies, build bridges, and translate the energy and grass roots activism in his campaign now into a renewal of people really participating in government. I really am starting to feel hope again.
Would I vote for Hillary still, after all this? Well, I would vote AGAINST McCain, for the Democratic candidate, if that was the case, holding my nose. Fortunately, I will be able to vote FOR Obama. I just hope Hillary gives up her destructive crusade soon. Very soon.
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xrandadu Hutman
"trying to claim equivalence between Clinton's Bosnia story and the vastly more minor inaccuracy of a campaign mailer that refers to Obama as having been a professor when he war really only just an esteemed teacher, or whatever."
to be honest, I couldn't help but literally laugh when I popped online and saw this "debate" has gone on more than 3 posts on the professor thing--I still chuckle each time I open this thread up and see it continue. Of course, maybe that laughter is just a defense mechanism since by all rights I should be crying that this is actually part of a discussion about selecting the person for probably the most influential (if not important) job in the world. Heavy sigh.
"Ultimately I don't put Clinton's Bosnia story in anywhere near the same category as what's being said by Bush about Iraq, or Mukasey about waterboarding,"
Now you've gone and gotten all reasonable and stuff on me--how am I supposed to respond to that?
Enjoy your exercise--nice day here as well so off to the park with the family
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billcap
Heavy sigh, indeed. find release in the park with your family under a spring sky. It's so hard to choose "most trivial thread" in this ongoing primary trainwreck, but this one sure gets a nomination. It rivals "what is, is" when it comes to piddly parsing. best, tom