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The Clinton campaign's charge that Barack Obama was merely a lecturer is rebuffed by the University of Chicago Law School.
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  • Sigh.

    Are we really going to do this until August?

  • The Clinton campaign really can't do anything right, can they?

    She not only won't get the nomination this time, she's never getting it ever. And it's all because of her own campaign. Absolutely amazing.

  • Sigh, indeed.

    Yeah, but she called me a Lecturer! So I called her a Monster! Then he said I was a McCathy clone and so I said he was a racist! Then she said then he said... and Salon caught every nuance. Congratulations.

  • Details Matter--But Not to the Clinton Campaign

    "Details matter.' In academia, there's a significant difference: professors have tenure while lecturers do not."

    Well, yes and no. Typically, assistant professors (still referred to as "Professors" by both students, faculty, and administration alike) don't have tenure--and they may or may not have "tenure track" appointments. Associate professors are usually those who have achieved both tenure and promotion--occasionally, though, you can run across an assistant professor who has tenure but was denied promotion (poor practice, but you can find them). Full professors cannot be promoted farther in this ranking, and, as with associate professors, usually have tenured.

    And then in some schools there are "adjunct" professors--teachers who don't have tenure but are hired on an "ad hoc" basis and typically teach less than a full load. In some schools, "Lecturers" and "Senior Lecturers" are those who teach, sometimes on an adjunct basis--but more typically they have credentials, teach a full load, but aren't on tenure track.

    Practice varies, and varies tremendously, from school to school. Which you'd think the Clinton campaign would know, or would bother to find out. But, as with much else that concerns this campaign, they seem to believe that if they assert it, it must be true. They'll probably take a lot of fire over this one--not sniper fire, but fire nonetheless....

  • Professor

    I'm pretty sure that several friends of mine who took constitutional law from him at the University of Chicago considered him their college "professor" since he, you know, taught the course.

  • Threads...grasping for threads

    I believe the appropriate response from the Obama camp should be...Pathetic... is that all you've got..? why not run the Reverand Write video clip again and see if you can get some more mileage out of it.

  • Four more years for more tears.

    I have lost all respect for Hillary, and I had plenty for her. This whole campaign is no longer angering me, it is just depressing the hell out of me. John McCain, please take this lovelypresidency, handed to you on this lovely silver ("no, it's nickel" -- "no, it's brass") platter.

  • Sure...

    he was a "professor" (if you can believe the University, it is, afterall a bastion of right-wing Strausian nuts and neo-cons who might say that just to get one or the other Dem candidate...)...but did he ever dodge bullets or make peace in Northern Ireland?

  • And in this corner....

    So you have one side that uses a word that for all practical purposes was correct.

    And the other side says some words that claim something happened that very, very as in holy-crap-there's-publicly-available-VIDEO-fer-cryin'-out-loud cleary did NOT happen, and that side is trying to use it as justification for claiming foreign policy experience and being fully vetted.

    I am NOT elevating Barack to some exalted, inevitable, Messiah status. I am merely looking at 2 candidates and I'm seeing one stand tall while the other is furiously digging downward, clawing, scratching and screaming "But it's MyyyYYYY tuuuuuuurrrnnn!!!!"

    For shizzle. You want to elect who again?

  • @hotzpur Real life people who might actually know something? Oh No!

    Did your friends like the course taught by Obama, or did they find it a snooze fest? The Audacity of Hope has a pretty passionate (IM!HO) chapter on the constitution, particularly on issues regarding strict constructionists and how the constitution applies to each generation. I wonder if Obama learned how to speak by learning how to keep students awake in class.

  • It Would Have Taken One Phone Call to the Chicago Law School

    Should we trust Senator Clinton with our national security if she hires lazy staff?

  • Hmmm...

    ...This was also discussed on the Diane Rehm show (WAMU 88.5) this morning, on her weekly weekend round-up session. Juan Williams, NPR reporter and Fox News Analyst, was arguing that the university was "parsing" the difference between professor and Sr. Lecturer, as if the school didn't know the difference. It is my understannding that the University of Chicago, if not the law school itself, tends to be "conservative." And know we now where people have picked that line of argument.

  • Hmmm...

    ...This was also discussed on the Diane Rehm show (WAMU 88.5) this morning, on her weekly weekend round-up session. Juan Williams, NPR reporter and Fox News Analyst, was arguing that the university was "parsing" the difference between professor and Sr. Lecturer, as if the school didn't know the difference. It is my understannding that the University of Chicago, if not the law school itself, tends to be "conservative." And know we now where people have picked that line of argument.

  • I guess Hillary

    was too busy dodging bullets on a Bosnian runway to pay attention to the truth.

  • What a contrast

    Obama has a bad week based on some news cycles about his pastor. While the issues raised aren't necessarily substantive, Obama gives a major and courageous speach addressing the issue and racism in general.

    Clinton has a bad week based on some news cycles about her inflated, and un-true claims about a trip to Bosnia. Once again, the issues aren't necessariy substantive. Clinton's response:

    - deny she lied, claim she "misspoke", debate the meaning of "is"

    - mention Obama's previous bad week in an attempt to deflect attention

    - launch mature "I know you are but what am I" attack against Obama.

    Good thing she's such a strong and principled leader, otherwise people might start to wonder why this freak-show is still going on.

  • Bill and Hillary Clinton

    Bill Clinton is like Dorian Gray, and Hillary Clinton is like his portrait in the closet.

    Bill clinton was an expert in covering his nastiness with an oily charm. Hillary is just unvarnished, raw Clinton. She can't mask the ugliness of her campaign.

    This latest assault on Barack Obama is just childish. She 's become anti-presidential.

    So earlier in his career Obama was teaching constitutional law, a "professor." Earlier in her career Hillary Clinton was savaging a young girl to defend a rapist. Both were doing their jobs. which would you rather have in the White House.