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A fanciful scenario where neither Obama nor Clinton is the Democratic nominee for president.
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  • Yes it is!

    Katharine writes: "And yet ... is this scenario any more preposterous than the one that gave John McCain the Republican nomination?"

    Yes Katharine, that is much more presposterous.

  • Preposterous?

    Perhaps, but Gore in '08 (with any VEEP candidate) would be an elegant solution, and improved even, by my suggestion that HRC be nominated for SCOTUS.

    (RBG doesn't like being the only woman on the Court, and Clinton would be great there. Everything she is criticized for, temperamentally speaking, would become an asset. Plus, no more campaigning, and no role for Bill.)

    It would also begin to right some of the karma that went so dreadfully wrong in 2000, only to get even worse in each successive year.

  • Sheesh

    Ahhh, old Tailgunner Joe just wants the opportunity to character assassinate both Al and Barack in one fell swoop. Fanciful dreaming from a baldheaded Beltway nightmare.

  • you'll print anything

    that mentions Obamas name lol well as long as it's not negative.

    I don't see an article on indicted Governor Anibal Acevedo Vila of Puerto Rico, one of Obama's superdelegates.

  • This was my dream ticket...

    Before Obama started collecting tons of delegates. As much as I'd like Actual President Gore to have a term or two in the White House, it's Obama's time. Unfortunately, I doubt if Gore would want to be VP again either.

    Let's hope that Obama (or Hillary, if she manges to get nominated and elected) will find a way to work Gore into his(her) administration in whatever official or unofficial role is most effective.

    In other news, who gives a rat's ass what Joe Klein or any other self-important pundit thinks? Isn't Klein the class act who said someone's (Obama? Clinton? Spitzer?) political trouble was "the manta ray jumping into the boat" on the day after that woman was killed?

  • Joe Klein

    As soon as I saw the author I knew the article would be a piece of crap and sure enough, it was! Thanks to Glenn Greenwald for publicizing just what a moron Klein is.

    There is one oft-raised "point" in Klein's article: That Dem voters of a certain demographic will stay home if one or the other Democratic candidate loses the nomination. And yet these authors assume all the republicans will come out in droves for McCain.

    This simply shows a complete detachment from reality.

    First, McCain has alienated large segments of the Republican base. Many very likely will stay home in the fall because he's spoken out against evangelicals or because he doesn't hate immigrants.

    Second, Party identification trends show that even if the Dems stay at home while Repubs go and vote scenario is true, that'll just indicate a narrower victory for the Democrat. Democratic identification is over 50% at this point while Republican is under 35%. Most of these idiots writing columns are so desperate to pretend the race will be close they pretend it is a 40-40 split with a volatile 20% of independents swinging wildly back and forth between the two.

    Third, much of the "I'll stay home or vote McCain" is undoubtedly hyperbole in an attempt to emphasize their support for their candidate. In the end you'll see more people voting for the Dem candidate, despite misgivings, than you will people voting for the Repub in the same manner. More Repubs are likely to stay home and there are fewer of them to start with.

  • Consider the Source

    Jokeline must have downed a few pints of Listerine. Not going to happen.

  • Not a chance

    Al Gore could not win his own state in the 2000 election and he still could not win it today. I cannot imagine a scenario in which he could win the Presidency, frankly.

  • Stupidest idea ... ever?

    Well, if you WANT to confirm some Democratic voters' suspicions that the system is rigged for white males, I can't think of a better way to do it than take the nomination away from a woman and a black man who fought like hell for it and give it to a white guy who did absolutely nothing to win it.

    Because I can tell you one thing: as far as Hillary may be behind Obama in pledged delegates and the popular vote, Al Gore is way, way, way behind either candidate in those measures. Hell, he hasn't even won a single big state!

    Al Gore would have been a great candidate if he gotten into the race when the getting was good, but to put him at the top of the ticket now would be a utter mockery of the democratic process.

    I think this article shows how phenomenally out-of-touch people like Joe Klein are.

  • Stupidity

    "And yet ... is this scenario any more preposterous than the one that gave John McCain the Republican nomination?"

    I'm with ceytron on this one. Didn't the GOP have a bunch of people VOTE in primaries all over the country for several months and McCain got the most votes? Or did I just imagine that preposterous scenario?

  • If No One gets 2025

    They may approach Gore

  • Then The

    Obama babies couldn't cry about it being stolen from them.

  • Re: Yes it is!

    I didn't write that line. Joe Klein did. I'm quoting him.

  • If Hillary's Takes It To The Convention

    And no one has 2025 and they keep re-voting and her supers keep voting for her and Obama's for him, they may have to find a compromise candidate.

  • Does this alarm anyone?

    I know its April and we're a long way away, but is anyone concerned with this:

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/Mar27.html

  • JSum003

    It's not alarming. It's a fact. Obama can't win. That's why the supers haven't gone with him. They don't know what the hell to do.

  • an amusing scenario

    Ok, I'll bite.

    Speaking as someone who campaigned for Nader in 2000 in an effort to repudiate Clintonism, and as an Obama supporter now, I would vote for Gore this time around, provided that he ran on climate change.

    The most dismaying thing about this whole election cycle is the deafening silence about the number one issue facing the planet.

    It's a horrific (near apocalyptic, even?) form of mass denial. As far as I'm concerned, everything else, the war, the economy, terrorism, whatever, is as nothing next to the prospects of having our planet become inhospitable to human life, even if "just" along the coasts.

    Anyway, I believe Gore gets it on this front, and I think he'd be our best hope of initiating the radical changes required for us to even attempt to deal with a crisis the scale of which will make the Depression look like boom times.